Tesla FSD 12.5 Runs Red Lights

As I’ve predicted for some time (here and here), Tesla’s software development practices will lead its AI to commit more and worse dangerous moves over time.

Drivers (let alone the trolls who run Tesla) intentionally have been training the car to ignore stop signals, as an extension of the CEO’s “extreme free speech” radicalism inciting people to disregard all safety regulation.

The CEO literally filmed himself running a red light with the car as if to promote it as a privilege ticket to live above the law. And we saw a court give only probation for robotic manslaughter, as if to normalize extremism.

In other words Tesla will drop a new version (12.5) to distract from the past and pretend something new is better, yet in reality it carries a huge debt of unfixed (arguably intentional) errors and should be banned from use on public roads.

I had specifically predicted Tesla engineering would result in their “driverless” AI running red lights. And here we are:

12.5.1.3 has ran 4 red lights so far

The lights turn yellow from far away and FSD continues the same speed and just runs it as if it were green or there is no light. Also the light was never yellow mid way it was red then FSD would cross the white line.

Anyone else experience this?

Not an isolated problem.

Yep. I’ve had it happen twice in the last month – both times, I intervened and slammed on the brakes. I give it enough time to see if it’s gonna stop…which it still brakes kinda hard for me at lights. But yeah, twice in the last month.

Many owners are saying the same thing.

I did see one time yesterday, where it had good enough time to slow down for yellow it did not.

And…

Yes! Thankfully I stopped it before it ran the light but hopefully Tesla is aware their software is at a very dangerous level right now.

And…

One time now- FSD was doing the speed limit 55. The light turned yellow on me well before it entered the intersection and my car just kept going. I had my max set to 60 and it didn’t speed up either, in fact it felt like it may have slowed a little once in the intersection. It was very red. No increase in speed to compensate. It was not good. I was shocked by it so I sped up on my own to clear the intersection.

And…

The same day I installed v12.5.1.3, it ran a red light at ~30 MPH. FSD never attempted to slow down or speed up — it just kept going. Fortunately, a slow-moving semi was just entering the intersection from my left to turn toward me, so I was able to clear him easily. FSD has been okay since, but it’s only day 2 so we’ll see… (2024 M3DM)

And…

My exact experience 100%

I really hope they issue a fix for this soon

And…

Yes sadly I’ve also had that happen once or twice at below 30 mph

Having trust issues because of it ngl

And…

Pre 12.5 I never had any issues but since 12.5 I have needed to brake on several lights

And…

Only happened to me once, and I was already ready to take over so I applied the brakes to avoid it.

Right-wing Extremist Cuts Down 500,000 Trees in Germany and Attacks Police

Satellite imagery has been used for analysis showing a massive Russian-funded military deforestation project by the right-wing extremist known for his ties to the AfD (Nazi) German party and inciting violent white supremacist riots in the UK.

Satellite images show 329 hectares (813 acres) of forest were cut down at the site between March 2020 and May 2023, according to the environmental intelligence company Kayrros. That is equivalent to approximately 500,000 trees.

When criticism of the deforestation landed, the alleged perpetrator started widespread propaganda campaigns attacking German police for not being more repressive of such speech.

The development… owner, has criticised local police for letting off “leftwing protesters”.

Self-identifying as a right-wing activist by criticizing German police for allowing left-wing speech, while actively promoting AfD (Nazi) party hate speech and inciting violent hate swarms, all related to rapidly building a robot factory for war outside the German Reichstag… isn’t exactly subtle.

To be clear, Elon Musk complains when police crack down on hate speech, and complains even louder when police don’t crack down on anti-hate speech.

Next thing you know Tesla will flaunt more “88” announcements, yet pretend its factory workers aren’t being screened to “Z heil“.

Tesla apparently has been working hard to land a huge anti-environment military robot (drone chemical cluster-bomb) munitions factory outside Berlin, which it expects to be instrumental when Putin and Musk work together to launch remote attacks on Germans and undermine democracy.

I doubt German intelligence can find any bigger rising national security threat.

NJ Tesla Kills One in “Veered” Crash Into Tree

Another day, another Tesla robot drives itself into a tree and kills its owner.

Hamilton Township police responded to the single-car wreck on Mays Landing Somers Point Road near the intersection with Ocean Heights Avenue at around 1:35 a.m. on Sunday, Aug. 18.

Investigators said a 2024 Tesla SUV Model Y left the road, crashed into several trees, and caught fire. The driver was pronounced dead at the scene.

Brand new 2024 model. The Tesla software and hardware seems to get even less safe, still often “veering” suddenly into a tree, with each new version release.

Two days later, the same thing.

Why Did the Bayesian Sink? Video of Palermo Storm That Hit the Lynch Superyacht

That’s a lot of wind on the ground.

Still, such a large ocean-going “super” yacht sinking so abruptly has been raising many questions about what went wrong.

A fisherman described seeing the yacht sinking “with my own eyes”. Speaking to the newspaper Giornale di Sicilia, the witness said he was at home when the tornado hit. “Then I saw the boat, it had only one mast, it was very big,” he said. Shortly afterwards he went down to the Santa Nicolicchia bay in Porticello to get a better look at what was happening. He added: “The boat was still floating, then all of a sudden it disappeared. I saw it sinking with my own eyes.”

One notable fact is the yacht boasted having the 2nd tallest aluminum mast in the world. It was allegedly 75m, a substantial surface area even when bare.

Photo taken the evening before it sank. Source: Twitter

The boom also appears to be absurdly large, likely a roller-furl system for the huge main. Such a mast and boom would have presented a huge pressure area for a dangerous storm.

Just for quick reference, vesselfinder says the draught is a shallow 3.8m even underway!

(A superyacht site claims the full draught can reach 9.73m). If that 3.8m is true draught, the yacht was built with a ratio of over 75m above versus less than 4m below the waterline when anchored.

You can do the math for a hurricane force hitting that stick sideways.

Actually, I’m far too curious to leave it at that… so here’s a quick estimate.

Multiplying the yacht’s displacement (473,000kg) by Earth’s gravitational force (9.81m/s²) and the yacht’s righting arm (2.75m based on its 11m beam), its righting moment would be approximately 12,750,000 Newton-meters (Nm). The dangerous heeling moment would be where a 75m mast is hit with 170,000 Newtons of wind force (F x 75 = 12,750,000).

To calculate a dangerous wind speed (V²), we use air density (1.225kg/m3), mast drag coefficient (1.2), mast surface area (200m²), and that wind force. The equation looks like this:

170,000 = 0.5 x 1.225 x 1.2 x 200 x V²

Solving for V, we find that a dangerous wind speed is 34 m/s.

This means a sideways wind at around 80 mph could be strong enough to tip the yacht over far enough to take on water in a sudden instant, even with only the mast exposed. The crew allegedly said there was something like a 20 degree heel initially (already quite a lot), which had them running about trying to secure things, and then a sudden sinking.

The video above, along with reports of waterspouts/downbursts/tornadoes suddenly appearing in the area, suggests a sufficient wind force was present. Here’s just one of many examples recorded during the day:

Presuming the abrupt storm wind shifted to full abeam (because fore or aft wouldn’t be a risk), the force hitting bare mast and boom from the side while anchored, she may have been pressed hard onto her starboard ear and pinned under water by the anchor. This is a familiar story, unfortunately, for huge ships lost at sea.

…the Concordia had proven herself a very able sea-boat able to stand up to hurricane-force winds,” he says. “But 40-plus knots of wind directed downward after the vessel had heeled to deck-edge immersion angle is another story.

Looking at the weather history, we see some of this evidence. A predominant westerly breeze of 10-15 after midnight suddenly jumps 90 degrees from the north and over 40mph at 3:50AM.

Wind Speed Palermo. Source: WunderGround 2024-08-19

That’s a reading near the ground, which is important context. The higher and more exposed, the windier and gustier in some storms (downburts tend to concentrate force at lower levels). If the storm had unlimited fetch to build strength before impact, a 40mph ground reading could have been upwards of 60mph above 50m.

Who could have seen it coming? Who could have predicted this tragic design configuration failure (anchored with reduced draught in a storm blowing sideways)? Bayes…

Bayesian theory for risk prediction is how the owner made his billions, thus renaming his $30M superyacht Bayesian before the most ironic sinking in history.

A yacht like the Bayesian is designed to heel when underway. Being knocked over by winds over 40mph at 4am on anchor means that it also might have had doors and hatches open, allowing water to rush in and push her down. But the speed of sinking suggests more like a total knock-down. When the mast hits water, it’s plausible half the hull is under immense pressure of doors or windows being smashed open by heavy flooding.

The Kiwi skipper of a superyacht that sank off Sicily after being hit by a tornado has told Italian media: “We didn’t see it coming.”

All that being said, this tragedy of a half dozen lives gets a lot more attention than the hundreds being killed by Tesla