Chinese Antigravity Tech & The Battle For The Future of Earth... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJPVgbtbiCU Now That The FBI has confirmed the legitamacy of Cybertruck Bomber Matthew Livelsberger's messages to Sam Shoemate, which curously mention Chinese and Secret American "Antigravy Technology"... Why is nobody talking about this supposed Secret Chinese Antigravity technologies, programs, or their products? HINT: Because it's related to HIGHLY CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET PROGRAMS! And they will SHADOW BAN YOU IF YOU REPORT ON IT! Transcript 00:00:00 live on the alien scientist Channel you are watching The Host Me Jeremy Rys I am a Bachelor of Science and physics uh with about 20 years in the field of studying Advanced classified black programs saps and interviewing and talking to many scientists insiders and others who worked in these programs and trying to get that information out to expose what is really on the Deep States agenda exposing history have the Deep State uh we do all kinds of research and real disclosure real honest research and 00:00:38 and conspiracy work on this channel uh it is just uh amazing everything that's going on uh the last couple weeks no word back from Sean Ryan and you know I was hoping uh other people would reach out to me for other podcasts but nobody's uh yeah you should have said hi um lots of people should say hi lots of people should reach out and keep uh keep this this information current because lots of stuff's going on man and we are winning I mean you look at uh you look at when every time um these guys 00:01:10 make a new post now um we're we're winning the disclosure fight so the controlled opposition the guys who are uh the fake UFO um narrative official approved and officially sanctioned UFO narrative uh folks and their minions of absolutely followers I'm sorry these guys are the three dumbest people I've ever met on on Twitter in UF ufology this is um this is Ryan um Ryan of uh the the UFO Jesus this guy this guy came out with a pretending to be UFO Jesus dressed as like Jesus and um bringing UF Promises of UFO 00:01:53 disclosure through you know Corbell and all the usual limited hangout CIA Affiliated Suspects um just bringing us officially sanctioned garbage disclosure with garbage information um that these three accounts grew massively somehow on Twitter uh for spreading this propaganda and disinformation to the UFO Community this is uh the UFO Joe Joe mergia and this is Danny Silva all three of these guys are are just I would love to get them on my podcast and just make fools of them because they're they're like 00:02:28 some of the biggest uh sorry just absolute morons out there that have shared useless completely irrelevant and dumbass um disinformation to the community with this this uh particular individual cor Jeremy Corbell as the ring leader this guy came out of pretty much nowhere um a total CIA plant into the field of ufology I in my opinion I whether he CIA or what he's he's definitely some sort of Counter Intelligence whether he knows it or not he might be a useful idiot that's just being used to spread disinformation I 00:03:04 mean the spaghetti monster the jellyfish UAP the uh you know telling these people that they're not you know they're all they're the grown-ups of them taking over the field these guys are these guys are all the this is like the the circus and the choir um it's it's really uh the Church of ufology and it's it's again very little in ways of uh actual intelligence in this entire thing um and then a lot of talk and opinion in the whole the whole second half on these guys are irrelevant I'm not even sure 00:03:40 why I brought them up I'm sorry for that uh detour to I just have to point that out because these guys are the most popular uh when you search for UFO disclosure I mean this is what comes up this is what is being pumped out there they have their own show on TMZ for Christ's sake um you know a network uh obviously highly uh regarded for their credibility and Reporting um I mean it's just all it's all fluff it's this is like the National Enquirer of of the news uh world and and uh but they get a lot of viewership they get a lot of 00:04:14 people watching and um I don't because I reveal real information real Technologies real technical uh UFO disclosure and commentary uh from expert opinions and they hate that they do not want people waking up to that kind of stuff because that's going to get us real answers that's going to push the Deep state to actually give us real disclosure and all of this is being covered up and derailed they want you to dig into uh yeah fake fraud scientists like Bob Lazar not a real physicist lied about his education at MIT in Caltech 00:04:47 the guy took some Electronics courses at Pierce Jr College you don't go to Pierce Jr College if you get into MIT or Caltech the guy's a liar he was never a physicist the only physics uh technology disclosure he ever revealed in 30 years of this story being recycled by the disinformation Ops and Counter Intelligence running the limited hangout Ops is this element 115 business which there's no stable isotope of that and it's not anti-gravity this is absolute nonsense this stuff is put out there front and center to confuse distract 00:05:21 discredit and Al ultimately derail anyone who tries to attempt uh to look into the UFO subject and all its nuances and and and contrivances um let's see last week former senior defense intelligence agency scientist became the 10th xgovernment official military officer or scientist to allege or suggest publicly that the US government has recovered at least one UFO um there may be more I have to look at his list and find out that this is the 10th because I know quite a bit who've talked about this there's lots of 00:05:59 people that talk about this it's and and it's it's hilarious because you look at the um Hindustan times reporting on on all this and it it it talks about it still refers to all this as conspiracy theories so this guy winds up dead in in a cyber truck attack with a bomb in the in the trunk allegedly shot himself with a desert eagle uh but again there's no evidence of that I think this could be murder but it's reported as a definite suicide it's it's already reported that we we don't have a full investigation we 00:06:37 really don't know what happened but um they're reporting it as as if we know for a fact that this was a real suicide um but yet they call the things that he talks about conspiracy theories the idea that you know we have reverse engineered UFO technology and China has it too that was very specific in Matthew Li liberg emails that have been put out there they've been floated around in the intelligence Community uh on um shows like Shan Ryan and whatnot we we we talked about that earlier this week uh 00:07:10 we'll get into some of that other stuff in a second um but yeah you you look upin UFO and drone technology and stuff on on on YouTube or any of these major platforms and you find all this all the all the top search results are the this is a this is a regular commercialized six engine a six rotor drone that they built a a saucer shaped shell around it is nothing new or technologically revolutionary it's just a simple drone that they built a UFO like body around and it's and it's and it's look it's life-size so they're 00:07:46 flying this thing around in China all these people are watching it this man-made uh electric Flying Saucer um Fly people around so this is already going down this has been going down already this was a year ago it's only got 30k views but still this is this is what most likely uh people are seeing is is drone Technologies and the amount of drones that they could build and and could have we have no idea what China has in their secret arsenals or what the US has uh but it's apparently enough for a US Special Forces Soldier to blow 00:08:23 himself up in a cyber truck attack on the the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas over so I don't know maybe it's not that serious but seems kind of serious to me when when there's you know multiple government scientists and officials coming out saying that yes yes this is what's going on um all news still calling it conspiracy theories um here's uh a recent article from January 4th that was written by uh Davi ottenheimer Uh Davi ottenheimer is a um cyber security specialist so he's not not a physicist not really an expert in 00:09:01 physics or uh hasn't done the research that I've done or dug into the people and the scientists or talked to the physicists that I have or engaged with with that that type of information but let's let's hear them out and and read what the official mainstream you know deep science people and intelligence people uh really think about this right yeah yeah I know so many things that they say is a conspiracy theory uh turn out to be true these days but again there's a lot of conspiracy out there but that's maybe uh may or may not 00:09:32 be on purpose because uh you know I think that it is as I've mentioned many times the biggest names in ufology uh and the people that are put out there and shoved down our throats are the biggest grifters and that's why there's so much skepticism in the uh the whole the whole field of ufology because you know these guys out in the front and center we just don't know about them we don't we don't know what to think and the fact that they don't come on shows like this they don't engage with us they 00:10:00 don't mention us don't talk about us um really makes you suspicious and and and kind of skeptical of of of these people and their motives and who they're working with and who they're working for you know and again I wish these people would reach out the fact that these people don't reach out and other people you know it just makes me feel like everyone's part of this uh part of something you know just I don't know who to trust anymore you know but I do think it's some people are doing interesting 00:10:28 work and are just genuinely curious individuals you know like a lot of people suggested that guys like you know I know I know everyone out there gets accused of being a fed or a shill for touching this topic and Reporting on this topic and giving their slant or their their opinion on this stuff and you know what I've been a gatekeeper in some regards too with h with with regards to you know remote viewing technology which I really didn't believe in um you know because I don't don't see I want to see the you know some real 00:10:59 serious evidence he's got this new thing out about kids are telepathic and I thought this was spe particularly interesting I want to get into this um but yeah guys like Project Unity these guys are like friends of mine I've talked to them on the phone I got a really good vibe from them including Jesse when I every time I've talked to Jesse he seems like a genuine guy but again he's working with some of these individuals which but he's not working with APEC or some of the people that we you know these more established 00:11:30 incredible um groups so it's it's kind of like confusing about who's on what side but maybe everyone's just being pulled in different directions for other reasons uh who knows there's there's all kinds of people pulling all kinds of strings in this world uh I just want to get the information out there I want to get the best and most credible scientists on board to to Really analyze this and put this out there um let's read this article I I started getting into that and then I got distracted uh please smash that like button and share 00:11:59 this video we depend on you um again I don't I don't you know I don't think that cor Bell's a Fed I think he's a useful and that the feds are using him to spread disinformation and promoting him every time he spreads disinformation as an incentive to spread more disinformation it's much easier to control Shields and agents that way if you know if Corbell knows that he's working and has the receipts for that he can expose them at any time it's like reverse blackmail so it's again unless unless this these guys are have a a p 00:12:34 didy tape out there somewhere uh you know blackmailing them into control I just don't think you know and everyone calls me you know I've had tons of people when I went on Danny Jones and and exposed Bob Lazar everybody on that video called me a Fed look in the comments there's tons of people being like fed alert this dude's a Fed so everyone thinks you're a Fed when you're debunking stuff even if you're debunking the absolute crap and and showing people what the real stuff is um which again everyone just wants to believe what they 00:13:03 want to believe at the end of the day and there a lot of people are just looking for reaffirmation of their beliefs which is exactly why you know Corbell and those guys have the followers that they do um but anyways let's let's dig into the science and stay out of the pop culture of this all the gravity propulsion claims in Matthew liberer commu Communications Merit separate analysis from his testimony about civilian casualties in Afghanistan this distinction is crucial not only for evaluating his evidence of war crimes 00:13:37 all right but also for understanding current drone Operations Security all right so they're going to discredit his claims about the this other stuff to discredit his claims about war crimes gotcha all right this sounds like you're setting this up automatically very very peculiar writing here anyways claims about gravity control propulsion systems require extraordinary scrutiny scrutiny because they don't just suggest Advanced engineering they imply a fundamental revolution in physics that has somehow remained hidden 00:14:13 from the global scientific Community H somehow this is merely not merely this isn't merely unlikely it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of how scientific advancement works really really well four years ago everyone uh had different fundamental understandings in the global medical community about certain topics right that have now been completely exposed that everyone was on board with a total fraud and lie and that was the entire Global Community that's not merely unlikely that happens 00:14:56 that is a def that is a fact of nature in science in scientific communities so this is just a false completely false statement here in the whole second paragraph um and we're not just implying a fundamental revolution in physics we're showing you the anomalous experiments like cold fusion and and the uh propellantless propulsion that Charles Bueller stuff we're showing it we're not implying it we're we're proving it with physical experiments that you can replicate you if you're a good scientist you yes you can get on 00:15:30 board get our data and you can replicate this don't you understand we're not implying anything we're showing you we're giving you goddamn evidence and you people are morons you've followed the entire Global scientific Community just like we were hoodnic with the uh mRNA therapies and all that um nonsense the same way the medical community was Hoodwinked String Theory we been LED down a false path in global the global scientific Community the global physics Community has been completely misled with dark matter dark 00:16:08 energy no evidence for that no evidence for that stuff completely fictitious completely based on theoretical modeling and nothing to do with reality or real experiments which they completely ignore and and suggest that we are only implying a fundamental revolution in physics not showing you the direct godamn evidence for for people this is this is hilarious our current understandings of gravity come from Einstein's general relativity one of the most thoroughly tested theories in history any gravity control system would 00:16:43 require e either overturning general relativity finding massive loopholes that thousands of physicists have somehow missed yeah well somehow let's talk about somehow we have two competing theor like quantum mechanics and general relativity and they don't Jive so somehow all of the scientific physics Community has missed this yes that is a true statement but implying that it's a weird thing in some regard this is what are you implying the most thoroughly tested theories in in history okay so is quantum mechanics very you 00:17:26 know well thoroughly tested theories um but again we've shown the experiments about the tests that break the that break these theories and certain limits and show you know that hey if you change the variable refractive index you can change the speed of light so all these theories and and are based on constant c um so when you start being able to manipulate C and change the with metam materials which we didn't know about or have before really um you can create gravity Control Systems which completely 00:18:02 overturn don't overturn gen relativity at all they don't they don't require that they don't they don't overturn anything they're all based on solid battle tested physics that you just missed little nuances little things and we've shown that what you guys missed we've shown the physics for that completely ignored completely blacklisted completely shadowbanned for for talking about this and then called that we're we're we're quacks and we're whack we're whack quack we're not really a part of the academic 00:18:35 Community um because uh you know we're somehow overturning physics no no not at all the closest historical research programs like the Air Force's Gravity Research in the 1950s and70s produced valuable theoretical work on conventional gravitational effects like car's discovery about rotating masses but found no Pathway to gravity control okay that we know of they may have there's been lots of people that have alleged this like step Greer and and others Steven Greer has been on a number of very large podcasts that got 00:19:15 millions of views making the claim directly that the programs in the 1950s did produce uh the theoretical work um which allowed us to to defeat gravity and paved the pathway to gravity control which was then uh covered up by a system of secret government well I don't necessarily believe that I found a you know a lot of evidence that suggests you know we were looking we're still looking at anti-gravity today that there's still uh government programs out there working towards anti-gravity but that's not the 00:19:50 only way to defeat gravity is with you know anti-gravity you can also there's also lots of other classified propulsion um mechanisms and components and systems that the public doesn't know about that we've covered on this channel as well we don't necessarily need to have anti-gravity ships to explain all the um drone sightings in fact you know if these are alien ships it's likely that they'd be equipped with you know invisibility cloaks and some sort of stealth capability which would again make them undetectable um I don't they 00:20:21 would equip their aircraft with FAA regulated lighting doesn't make a lot of sense um yeah the details are the important part guys sorry I'm just uh I'm just trying to check and read some of your comments but um yeah this is spooky so um still struggling with basic questions so modern attempts to unify gravity with quantum mechanics arguably the largest effort in theoretical physics still struggle with base questions about gravity's nature that's right it does the idea that classified military research has securely and secretly solve 00:21:07 these fundamental questions while leaving no Trace in the broader scientific Community strains The credibility Beyond reasonable bounds um Richard feinan you know this the top theoretical physicist in in the country at the time went to that 1957 um gravity conference at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill we've covered that that was a classified military funded research study into nature gravity's nature so the idea that classified military research has secretly solved these they we don't know if they did I 00:21:48 don't think they did solve these problems but they came up with the idea of Weber bars and uh this the sticky bead argument with uh with Bondi and that led to the velopment of ligo right which is our gravitational wave Observatory our detector right so has secretly solved these fundamental questions while leaving no Trace in the broader scientific Community strains The credibility Beyond reasonable bounds not really because the people who are involved in trying to see secretly solve those fundamental questions at that 1957 00:22:26 UNCC Chapel Hill uh secret anti-gravity conference funded by Wright Patterson Air Force Base um if they had discovered it what they did in in the in the post is you know do it you know Bryce dit it who took part in that meeting could have sent phys helped with along alongside Kip Thorne and a number of these other top physicists in the world at the time they could have CW you know again Lewis Whitten all the guys that were involved in these these anti an gravity programs are the guys that birthed String Theory which sent all of 00:23:03 uh physics down a dark path for the past 40 years to know a path to nowhere so it doesn't uh strain credibility Beyond reasonable bounds because the guys who are working on these classified secret military programs are the guys that derailed physics for the past 40 years and literally created string theory and dark matter and all the fake um nonsense for for physics to chase in the mainstream I guess I guess well we'll see we'll wait and see about that but again get your F get your facts and Reporting straight on this man like I 00:23:44 would love someone to rewrite this article I I should re summarize all the stuff that I've just covered in in this segment and send it to him um and I encourage anyone else there out there to do it if if you have the time to help me with that um to let me know because this would be this would be great to really give him hell for this or anyways let's see even if we entertain the possibility of a gravity control breakthrough implementing it would require a massive scientific and Engineering infrastructure Oh you mean like um 00:24:22 something that a missing 2.3 trillion do uh might pay for you know I I could do a lot with uh two .3 trillion dollar in in discrete funding I could set up I could get all the scientists on board and build you and get a pretty awesome anti-gravity lab going with with uh Missing trillions of dollars from the Pentagon budget I don't know about you um but doesn't seem totally unlikely uh to me that they could implement this they could Implement a massive scientific and Engineering infrastructure with Supply chains for 00:24:57 exotic materials and components again we talk about the Exotic materials they're they're not they're not super exotic some of them are some of them are some of the some of the materials require some of the Quasi crystals and some of the crystal structures require uh micro gravity environment so they have to be grow literally the crystals have to be grown in space so is there a secret space program um growing with a crystal growing lab in space somewhere who knows I know that they talked about it in the IMAX film um on NASA's on the 00:25:32 on the inter International Space Station right in the IMAX film they talk about all the crystal growing in space that they're that they're interested in how the F that the companies are funding them to do crystal growth and space research so we have no idea there's missing trillions of dollars missing and there's tons of people um who disappear out of the scientific community and probably go into the these these these programs T I've talked to a couple people who've worked in some of these programs over the years nothing you know 00:26:09 but there's been a a wall of Silence people who I I it it's been hard man I imagine it's very difficult for someone with information on that scale to get to someone like me not easy not easy to find this Shadow band information in channels like this to begin with and then everything else so testing facilities and programs training programs for operators and maintenance personnel and fundamental changes to aerospace engineering education well I hate to break it to you but is that going on in China yes it is 00:26:46 they have I guarantee you they have they have this going on in China already the scale of such an Enterprise would be impossible to completely hide from the global scientific Community um yeah well let's talk about that well you go to um Batel Memorial Institute right so beel if you look up Batel Memorial Institute Batel Memorial Institute was started in the 1920s okay almost a 100y old uh organization they built the demon course for the Manhattan Project which means they had a higher security clearance at 00:27:24 the time than the president of the United States this is the kind of Legacy old school company experts in Metallurgy they built tank armor um profession they perfected the recipe for bullets um all the different types of uh bullets you know of different metals of different hardnesses and and and all that stuff they're experts and and all that stuff but not only that they manage all of our National Laboratories I talk about this all the time and I cannot repeat it enough or stress it enough every channel that you 00:28:03 can get on in a mainstream setting you need to bring up Batel and talk about this quasi governmental organization which in addition to you know making the most classified components for the Manhattan Project they have managed all of our National Laboratory facilities for decades so how do you control oh it's it's improbable the scale of such an emper Enterprise would be completely impossible to hide from the global scientific community no it wouldn't I show you exactly how they're doing it they manage all of the 00:28:39 National Labs literally the Deep State people who've number of whistleblowers like John Elroy Center uh IR iren what's her name um has come out of uh of battel and said that this is where you know some of the alien reverse engineering projects went on in the 50s that led to the development of night and all wire from the the memory foil metal that they recovered from Roswell which is a nickel titanium alloy but again well let's go back to the article um the scale of such an Enterprise would be impossible to 00:29:20 completely hide from the global scientific Community unless you manage all the National Labs which they do for comparison when the Manhattan Project developed nuclear weapons despite wartime secrecy thousands of physicists knew the theoretical possibility the broader scientific Community understood the underlying principles and multiple nations were pursing pursuing similar uh research no comparable Foundation exists for Gravity control technology well welcome to the Apec conference we have Indian people we have Chinese 00:29:56 people we have Russian people we're bringing together scientists globally from all over the world uh to discuss this technology in an open setting and we're completely shadowbanned completely ignored and blacklisted by the greater intelligence Community the scientific community and also um the UFO Community because we've debunked so many of their fake fraud scientists that The Counter Intelligence Ops have put out there to just distract confuse and mislead people um again doing everything we can to break 00:30:37 through that wall of misinformation the hiding behind this is all aliens we know that even if it is aliens there's been government reverse engineering and back tech uh programs which need to be dug into they manage all of our National Labs and again we have the foundation for or gravity control technology uh to be developed by the broader scientific Community we have the underlying principles we have the theoretical basis for a lot of this stuff with uh the the the work of Mike mccullock and um 00:31:15 quantized inertia it break it literally explains dark matter and dark energy and where the math went wrong and shows the underlying principles and the underlying physics you can go to his website quantized inertia and uh you know there's a whole bunch of papers you can read on this there's DARPA big billion dollar contract million dollar contracts I don't know about billion dollar but there's million dooll contracts U investigating this technology there's evidence of this technology we've interviewed the 00:31:50 scientists who've worked on this like R Roger Sher um Roger shaer and uh and some of the other um scientists who who've worked on on these Technologies guys this is all this is all real stuff we have the underlying principles this article is complete and and I I hope you guys write to Davey Opie and Oppenheimer send him this video maybe leave a comment where we summarize all this and give him links to all this stuff you know so that he can he can know just how how completely wrong he is in this lack of 00:32:29 understanding and lack of knowledge in the of the subject matter um multiple nations were pursuing similar research oh yeah well Mike mccullock and and Roger Shyer are over in um the UK uh we have groups working on the vman stuff over in India we have we have groups all over the world literally working on this stuff right now and it's completely covered up that Foundation exists you just don't know about it you just don't know it exists because it's been been hidden from you and it maybe people like you 00:33:01 are even paid to hide it from the public is why you write articles like this this makes gravity propulsion claims particularly useful for very targeted counterintelligence purposes oh yeah I would say so we still don't know if some of these uh people are Counter Intelligence and some of these claims might be false so we have some real stuff with the you know I know I I I like the propellantless propulsion stuff um but again they're superficially plausible to non-experts yet effectively impossible to disprove no they're these 00:33:36 are falsifiable the the ber research and and and a lot of that stuff's falsifiable maybe some of the metamaterial stuff it requires some really expensive crystal growing in space and and some exotic materials that you know might be effectively impossible to acquire to fully disprove this kind of stuff and then again you know building a large diameter rotating Mercury plasma engine uh you know effectively impossible to disprove some of this stuff you know for for the average person anyway or the 00:34:08 average science even the average science lab without fun without funding specifically for a project like this uh a lot of these yeah a lot of these claims are impossible to disprove and they seem more pla they seem plausible to non-experts but they a lot of stuff that is plausible and is real in science seems implausible to actual experts you look at lonus Pauling in the whole history of Quasi crystals I mean the scientific Community rejects new ideas because they just can't think outside the box they get stuck inside a um 00:34:41 that's how re that's how scientific revolutions and breakthroughs happen historically um is that yeah non-experts get involved non-experts like the Wright brothers um beat the teams out like the team um that was trying to build an airplane um because non-experts can do real work sometimes so I again this is just this is just ridiculous the way that this guy's approaching the topic he's not even keeping any sort of open mind or or understanding of history or science or technology unlike claims about 00:35:20 conventional technology they map onto existing UFO and advanced technology beliefs so they're they're and they're so extraordinary that they undermine The credibility of any Associated claims okay so this is this is why I understand what where this guy is where he's at he has not discovered us he's not discovered the real he's still in Bob Lazar UFO land thinking that element 115 is the only um sufficiently plausible uh UFO uh propulsion system technology out there so this is maybe I don't know this is where I'm at with 00:35:58 this this this pattern appears repeatedly in intelligence history yes yes it does the now famous U2 program long long ago benefited from UFO speculation when stealth technology development was obscured by absurd claims Advanced drone programs often attract similar technological mythology for similar reasons yes yes it does and it also works to their advantage for the disinformation because they got the alien people out there telling everyone the UFO crowd you got you know Jeremy Corbell and Lando telling people it's 00:36:31 aliens and and not saying a peep about Advanced drone programs or similar technology um and that's that's definitely for a similar reason that's that's an intelligent that's called Counter Intelligence we've already showed that those people are um most likely Counter Intelligence assets if not direct agents themselves and that they um spread Counter Intelligence or disinformation um and UFO speculation um aliens nonsense uh to keep people hard off the trail of the actual Technologies and the research um and the and the 00:37:09 programs and stuff so again the U2 case is particularly instructive because it shows how counterintelligence operations deliberately introduce fantastic elements to protect real classified technology boom I'm complete agreement there not going to argue that point next sentence when civilian Pilots reported strange aircraft at impossible altitudes the Air Force would provide multiple often contradictory explanations ranging from weather balloons to hints of more exotic possibilities yeah like the swamp gas 00:37:43 thing right um this created a noise floor of speculation that effectively discredited legitimate observers by associating their accurate observations with increasingly outlandish claims right so that's what they do they they flood then they create a noise floor to drown out the signal so we're the signal trying to get that signal I've been hunting that signal for you and giving you nothing but signal and these people create a noise floor and they are louder than everything else so that it's really 00:38:16 hard for people to get or hear or find any any signal in that in that noise floor perfect this this is the best this is the the best paragraph in your entire article hands down don't don't disagree with any of this this is exactly what they do and exactly what they're doing um the pattern of introducing fantastic elements to discredit legitimate observers has claimed numerous whistleblowers before livelsberger okay yes yeah there's been a number of whistleblowers who've been you know before and even get into the whole 00:38:53 disclosure project and that Clifford Stone guy God is he very hard to believe uh World War II British Naval intelligence under Godfrey and Fleming used a double cross system varying fake details were inserted into real documents about convoys to detect which German spies were active in specific regions based on which versions of the false information showed up in intercepted Communications yeah so they they they that's a mole hunt you know classic imal hunt uh tactics and intelligence parl you know so in the 1990s several Gulf War 00:39:35 veterans who raised concerns about chemical weapons exposure found their legitimate medical complaints becoming entangled with increasingly exotic theories about secret Westing weapons testing yeah yeah so the Gulf War veterans there was the depleted urani and uh a number of other types of rounds that they got exposed to and had and uh it was secret wound up in some nonsense and then also um the Fred Dunham story of the chemical weapons exposure that he received at Area 51 um if people remember that Fred Fred 00:40:20 Dunham Area 51 yep yeah look up the Fred Dunham story Area 51 on security guard for for more um Intel on uh exposure to the barium Titan 8 invisibility cloaking um radar invisibility cloaks that paint that they had um disposed of and burned in these open burn pits that get this guy these guys really really sick from barium exposure livelsberger case Li liberer case follows a well documented progression his detailed verifiable testimony about drone strikes on civilian casualties has become intermixed with gravity Drive claims in 00:41:02 a way that mirrors these historical cases again yeah I agree maybe this is uh because you know this is just seems weird that he'd do the if he knew anything about gravity devices and gravity control stuff that he'd mention it or try to disclose it in the way he did and then blow yourself up and this again this seemed the liel Burger case I'm convinced that this guy was murdered for something else that he knew and that the CIA killed him and set him up to make it look like a domestic terrorist attack I still treat 00:41:37 this as a CIA murder this guy was this guy knew something and they they put this stuff out there I'm almost convinced that they they put this stuff out there on purpose um to discredit the gravity control stuff we had Sarah Adams on Sean Ryan Show predicting all this you know in 2025 we're going to have this increase in the domestic terrorist ISM coming from these conspiracy theorist people and then um it's these conspiracy groups that are going to start doing all this nonsense I mean that's what makes the most sense to me 00:42:07 yes see I love to make it an accident guys livelsberger we have no the fact that so many foreign news stations are already reporting this as a definite 100% suicide should draw interest you know this is a homicide as far as I'm concerned livelsberger was murdered and he was set up to bomb this this this do this bombing the truck could have driven itself there we don't know how long he was dead could have been dead you know he could they they could have dumped his body in that truck and and and drove it 00:42:37 on autopilot to the damn Trump Hotel they could have been running his phone for weeks messaging all these people um with this anti this fake anti-gravity crap to make it look like a domestic Terror uh terrorist who was obsessed with anti-gravity uh conspiracies did this attack that sounds like CIA to me it doesn't sound like like a guy who's a special forces operative who had real information and about about this stuff going to you know blow the whistle doesn't doesn't make sense to me this is an Intel this is an Intel op and 00:43:13 I'm I'm almost positive the key difference is that modern Counter Intelligence operations may have become sophisticated at exploiting Integrity vulnerabilities using combat trauma such as a TBI to accelerate at the process of narrative contamination you know again plausible but I have my own theories on what happened to the Liv in the livelsberger case and the fact that Sarah Adams a CIA agent planting all this stuff out there and then it happens and they yeah it just and then they disclose that whole anti-gravity 00:43:50 thing on the on the same Shan Ryan podcast which Sean if you're listening man you got to get me on dude this is this is nonsense sense while pre previous cases often relied on external social pressure and deliberate contradiction to introduce doubt livelsberger Communications suggest a more Insidious approach that leverages mental harm and psychological suffering to blur the line between direct observation and introduced fantasy yeah that's because the CIA wrote those messages and they're trying 00:44:21 to make him look like a mental case who's been converted by um UFO and anti-gravity conspiracy theories and other other theories like the 911 the 911 stuff which we all cover on this channel and talk about the real stuff and uh they're scared as about people becoming redpilled and actually waking up to reality about about these these topics so they do not want people like me um getting that information out there so to blur the line between um real uh real OBS observ real objective uh facts and and data and is they 00:45:00 introduced this um complete fantasy narrative to completely blur those lines and then also make um people like me seem like extremists uh we're dangerous we're the biggest terrorist uh White terrorist threat group to the United States and that we all need to be um taken out um by the CIA for these purposes which is really really scary uh who knows this vulnerability based targeting becomes particularly concerning when we consider the timeline of liberer service his record suggests someone whose moral object objections to 00:45:35 civil civilian casualties made him a potential risk for whistleblowing the introduction of exotic technical ex elements into his narrative may represent a calculated attempt to force him out of operations through an early retirement on disability status a modern evolution of old Counter Intelligence tactics that explo rather than surveil potential whistleblowers yes maybe so if this guy is an actual whistleblower and they injected this false um stuff into the narrative I still don't know the whole 00:46:16 it just seems really weird that he would do this if this was indeed the strategy it backfired tragically rather than quietly accepting a glass ceiling leading to medical discharge livelsberger appears to have recognized attempted interference and manipulation his final Communications suggest someone who despite or perhaps of his combat trauma maintained enough Clarity to provide separate claims he gave both direct observations of war crimes as well as exotic claims he was being fed his choice of suicide well 00:46:50 explicitly providing testimony about civilian casualties regardless of the gravity drives suggest a determined effort to ensure his credible core evidence wouldn't be lost under plausibility of technological Revolution or the CIA wrote All This and and put it in to make it him make people like us look like crazies um meanwhile modern drone operations face genuine security challenges around detection and tracking capabilities counter drone Technologies command and control security uh you can look up command 00:47:26 andol contr and the DARPA um YouTube channel and you'll get a a really cool video on all that and what that all means and then power everywhere is another one too talking about how they're going to beam power over these command and control uh security situations um autonomous systems limitations International airspace regulations and civilian oversight mechanisms yeah so civilian oversight mechanisms basically there they spying on you with drones okay again yes conspiracy is only a theory until you're 00:48:06 in court being tried by it because you committed a crime with someone else right these real operational concerns and likely exploits require serious attention claims about gravity propulsion not only distract from actual drone Advanced capabilities but also from legitimate questions about autonomous systems civilian oversight and accountability in targeted strikes true we don't necessarily need gravitic propulsion to describe super uh directed energy C super cavitation um type craft the Next Generation Um type craft that 00:48:46 have these skin Coatings that can energize the air around them effectively making it a plasma and then Super cavitating that plasma so that they can basically travel through a vacuum with zero air resistance okay that's not gravitic propulsion that has nothing to do with you know gravity control and yet these claims about you know UFOs and gravity control Technologies distract and discredit like the real knowing the technologies that we do know exist and actually have proof of right that kind of stuff those so the 00:49:20 claims about the gravity propulsion systems have distracted us yes I I I agree a lot of this I from the over the last several years of investigating and digging into the physics of and plausibility of you know these gravity gravitational propulsion systems I've determined there's no evidence for for for that we've not discovered a single experiment that shows you know it's a gravity based propulsion system we've shown some interesting anomalies with the the M drive and the and the and the quantized inertia stuff and also the 00:49:54 Charles ber experiments from NASA but again gravity propulsion not only distracts from actual drone Advanced capabilities but also from legitimate questions about autonomous systems civilian oversight and accountability in targeted strikes I guess yes so who's yeah the targeted strikes are the important part these if these Technologies exist and they're being used for that so interest yes some some not everything I'm going to disagree with with uh Mr Levi I mean Davy D whatever it is for the National 00:50:37 Security Community separating these narratives is crucial because liver Berger's testimony about civilian casualties in Afghanistan aligns with un ground investigations Brown University casualty data known changes in uh Rules of Engagement and Reporting requirements and document to operational patterns his descriptions of drone operations reflect standard military procedures known technical capabilities established command structures and verifiable policy changes the gravity propulsion claims by 00:51:16 contrast so classic sign of introduced disinformation through physically impossible capabilities absent of supporting infrastructure violation of known scientific principles and isolation from the broader scientific Community again not all that may be too far off but again the the the the the gravity propulsion claims provide you know demand evidence they require evidence there is no evidence of you know gravitational manipulation we we I have not seen any experiments yet that show a total manipulation of G 00:52:01 although the polariton condensates that create negative Mass are super interesting and um but anyways that's a whole another another topic but understanding how gravity propulsion claims function as interference helps clarify both the cred credibility of liberer core testimony and the ongoing challenges in drone Operations Security yeah well well gez if they got Supersonic and super cavitating drones out there yeah we have a we have some serious challenges ahead in the years to come uh and there's going to be a 00:52:40 massive battle with China who possesses a lot of the technical infrastructure to actually build a lot of this stuff it demonstrates why extraordinary claims about breakthrough Technologies should be evaluated against the required scientific infrastructure absolutely the broader research community's knowledge the physics principles involved in the historic pattern of similar claims okay we've dug into that way deeper than you have please interview me on your podcasts or for you for your next paper your next 00:53:12 article um please I would love to have a have a talk on this stuff hey man thanks that means a lot to me man I I really get down on myself off seing these other UFO shows get way more uh views and and uh and popularity it kind of makes me think you know maybe we're I'm doing something wrong here um but again just trying to do what I stay true to myself and stay true to the information and try to and try to be as accurate as possible and if I'm wrong about something and just admit to it it's just easier than than trying to 00:53:55 lie cover up ah understanding yeah so this is this is important the last paragraph when evaluating whistleblower testimony about classified programs distinguishing between operational reality and introduced disinformation remains essential absolutely this is the essential component of all this this is what I've tried to do for all you people for the last several years try to entertain as much of this this crazy outlandish stuff as we can keep an open mind but again require evidence and and evalu 00:54:27 everything based on on operational reality rather than you know anyone can claim anything till you can reproduce it and show and show it and find verif verification so yeah trust but verify claims that require overturning fundamental physics deserve particular skepticism yes they do especially when they appear alongside more credible testimony about conventional operations and policy VI as right this is called uh insertion disinformation planting um again not everything everything should be evaluated on an individual 00:55:07 basis um and there are some overturning potential overturning in fundamental physics there is potential derailing of fundamental physics of the past 40 Years is as we've talked about with the whole do it and uh Kip Thorne and and what what came out of the battel ren contes and um the whole apparatus after the 1957 anti-gravity secret anti-gravity conferences which were funded by the you know military and the Air Force again lots of skepticism there's lots of suppressed information in this this story this 00:55:45 separation allows proper attention to both the serious evidence of Civilian casualties and the real Technical and ethical challenges in current drone operations without being diverted by speculation about impossible Technologies right like MH370 teleporting uh to Diego Garcia right no we have evidence that it could be invisible that they could have disappeared the plane with invisibility technology that definitely exists it's real but the idea that we teleported it I haven't seen evidence that we can teleport atam I mean an 00:56:23 airplane show me show me a lab that can take a model airplane or Hot Wheels and teleport that a a small object little Al on a a MH370 a jum jumbo was it 757 747 I I don't know as much about the case but I'd love to talk to Ashton about it he seems to be getting quite a bit of used to and talking about a lot of science that he doesn't really understand that well and I try my best to you know pitch in when I can but I've been find find a lot of trolls on those posts attacking me when I try to get on 00:57:01 there and share real information but I just ignore it and I keep continuing to share the the better information and it's good that he I'm still you know allowed to uh get get information out there they haven't completely shut me up or silenced me yet which I I'm just they've tried like hell though and and I've put up a hell of a fight against them they they took all my computers away they took they took everything from me they they they and they're trying to they're trying to my whole life up right now but 00:57:32 that's a whole another story and um just going to keep doing what I'm doing keep putting information out there and keep researching this stuff and staying up with this again um no peer-reviewed physics papers support claims to have achieved gravitic propulsion okay well there's quanti inertia there's the Roger Sher stuff there's the um Charles buer NASA stuff okay patented propellantless propulsion technology it's not gravitic propulsion but again silly silly you got to get get with this the sub major physics 00:58:21 institution considered gravity modification be Beyond current technological cap capabilities right again not all this is is gravitic control propulsion and um yeah this is a good paper too control gravity control propulsion towards a general relativistic approach I'll have to uh run this by some of our guys good stuff thank you for that article man that was that was a pleasure to read a pleasure to review um and it helped uh I hope it helped clarify some things for you Mr Davi um Davi ottenheimer and I hope uh guys 00:59:07 send this along do that contact send them some information man let's let's send anyone reporting on you know this very few people are actually talking about anti-gravity technology and even reporting on it this guy did a decent job thank him for his work and and and send him this video I'm going to I'm going to do that right now flying penguin that's his name all right I'm gonna I'm going to do that after after the stream but um anyways yes so PS yes the MH370 teleportation is bunk and S pays is suspicious for nodding along with 00:59:51 Ashton Forge as he dished about that crap right right again stay skeptical we need to prove we need to prove these things I think it's possible the videos could be real I showed my skepticism of them from the get-go again I'm not an expert in video manipulation my expertises in vetting potential breakthrough Technologies and we've not been able to vet the idea of uh this being a actual um this the UFO videos I'm going to put play the video up play the video on here oh this is a this is not the right 01:00:40 video anyways I wanted to show that everyone's probably seen that that by now this the the videos of the uh the MH370 playing allegedly uh taken from this esur space-based infrared radar system uh supposedly a satellite radar that can track every object on the planet and they can they can have a surveillance grid across the sky where they can zoom in and record and track aircraft and and film anything in our skies um those are the kind of you know technological capabilities I'm super interested in learning about um never 01:01:18 heard of espers before I met Ashton and had him on the podcast um I think Ashton has a lot of uh a lot of his success to thank for for my my help and and and helping him push him along I guess uh he's gotten a lot of information out there which is good but again we always have to be um we have to be skeptical and open-minded to all possibilities and not attach our egos too strongly to any opinion or belief um again I don't know I don't know I don't have answers on whether that uh MH370 video is legit but I just don't 01:02:06 have evidence for um invisib I have in evidence for invisibility technology they could have disappeared the plane but I don't know about and flowing it to Diego Garcia and then disposed of it or or what have you but as far as teleporting that damn plane and that these are Evo orbs that are going to that you know a lot of these guys you know even um Bob Greener was completely uh supporting the idea that the MH370 was you know legit and and uh that these were leoner EOS that it's just kind of a bunch 01:02:46 of and then they're bringing the John Hutcherson stuff into this which again that just makes me really skeptical about all that yeah Bob Green green Year's take on the physics of the MH370 uh videos I don't know you can believe what you want but again a lot of this stuff seems to me like it's uh it's trying to um mislead us don't know and all we can do is base our our our investigation on the science and what comes back from experiments and the Charles bu and the Mike mccullock quantized inera stuff so 01:03:28 far are the top two candidates we have uh for if you know if I if I were to recommend to investors of what to get into and invest into research for the future of these I would invest into Research into you know these these people and these companies to to push this further along that would be my suggestion um I don't think anything's going to come out of uh this Evo stuff unfortunately I think there's a lot of mixed up information in this this business um not really sure I know the LR LR stuff is great and 01:04:15 um guys definitely that um esos systemic futures Futures go check out that um if you're interested in this stuff the guy to talk to would be um Larry forsley I got to get Larry forsley back on I just listened to Larry forsley on the um he was on the ecosystemic Futures podcast that was a he had Larry forsley on there and they had hell put off on there and I was just blown away man that that ecosystemic Futures hell put Hof hell put Hoff Larry forsley yes number 69 ecosystemic Futures number 69 I would love to just play this whole 01:05:16 thing for you guys and just it's two hours and 44 minutes it they go deep on a lot of stuff man Larry forsley I met Larry forsley in 2014 at iccf 2014 uh the International Conference for cold fusion that was at uh MIT up here in in in Cambridge Mass so um oh uh Paris I I started uh trying to work to replicate paris's work and he um got all up but hurt about um proprietary aress and and his his uh intellectual property and the information and how he wanted to make money off it and keep it all to 01:06:05 himself and and got all mad at me for trying to replicate his thing and and started making accusations so I stopped I stopped my replication right there right there and I will no longer work with Perez so if you're interested in in pursuing that I can send you my files to get the the the fractal antenna plates printed and you can work on that but again a lot of that stuff's based on fractal antenna technology with uh Perez's work and I already one another guy I met at at at um iccf at n uh 14 2014 in MIT was a guy named 01:06:44 uh Frack tenna uh so the guy named Nathan Cohan and Nathan Cohan is the owner of fractal antenna systems which is in Bedford m they have a whole production facility and they don't even deal with uh customers regular you can write to them they won't even write they won't even write back to you they don't deal with anyone who's not DOD and all their contracts are classified and they all the stuff that they build are like crazy military components in these fractal antennas based on all that stuff that David David Perez was building 01:07:21 these um his kind of systems out of you know very similar to the cot snowflake systems this uh the these types of designs which apparently just work incredibly well for for the antennas um and antenna systems and um because of the geometries and the Cal nature of them that they they tune into some resonances that are just beyond and um very cool stuff but again I pay Perez David Perez took the kind of wrong approach to it all he's he's not in he's he's in to just make money and and try to cap he's a 01:07:58 capitalist and he just wants to he thinks he's going to make millions of dollars by selling this technology that he's building in his garage and it's just that's not going to happen bro like especially if you're not willing to work with Scientists who who want to replicate your stuff and and uh give you publicity and help you um get get funding and and people interested in your work you burn those bridges man that's that's your own fault so I'm sorry David I reach out to me if you change your mind because I would love to 01:08:28 work with you but I'm not going to work with people who are just you know accusing me of you know trying to steal their proprietary information like I'm just yeah giving this dude full credit for all this stuff but and I always do get I always site my sources and give people credit for for everything but yeah yeah episode 69 that pod that was an epic podcast guys if you haven't haven't heard this one this is something to listen to with how put off getting on there and really talking about Beyond 01:09:10 conventional physics extended electrodynamics lattice confinement Fusion Zero Point Energy and advanced propulsion so if you want to this is the one that that that yeah that I would make um penguin press there uh Mr Davey ottenheimer listen to tell Davy ottenheimer to listen to this and uh and after he watches this video because this will blow your mind and if you weren't convinced that there's a cover up of exotic uh new breakthrough physics Technologies and breakthrough fundamental physics um you'd be this 01:09:53 this this will convince you and show you Larry for forley is the guy okay Lawrence Lawrence forsley um let me show you him and Larry is uh Larry forsley is was the director for the US Navy spay War lab's research on cold fusion and he works for NASA Glenn Research Center this guy is a absolute genius he is so smart this dude is beyond like Beyond intelligent he is he is the man he knows so much much about cold fusion and and the whole history and I would love to get Larry on the show and talk to him man he I learned so 01:10:35 much at that ice that that cold fusion conference at MIT in 2014 you guys can look up my coverage of that here on the alien scientist Channel I have a lot of those um a lot of those videos you can find so go to go to YouTube right go to my alien scientist Channel because if you try to search for it the search bar here uh on YouTube you will never find it it is Shadow ban the algorithm does not give you access to this kind of information so you have to go to the alien scientist Channel on YouTube and go to the search this search 01:11:09 bar down here not the one up here you got to and you have to be in a web browser this doesn't work on your mobile app or on your phone it has to be in a web browser and you go to the search bar here and you can type in Larry fors Le um or type in iccf 2014 right whoops what is going on here what is going on what is what the what the dude ah I don't know what happened there damn it I don't have any of this stuff I got to repost all these man because these were key let me see if Nathan Cohan is on 01:12:02 there okay this one 26k views sorry for the old film this was this was with old camera and old technology but yeah the MIT cold fusion this was one of the episodes from the MIT cold fusion this was the guy's presentation in 2014 on the fractal antenna stuff and um this will blow your mind uh you can search for Larry forsley you probably find some stuff oh yeah so here's the one this is from more updated so this is iccf 20 uh 24 and uh plasma loading he talks about solid energy Summit Workshop plasma and 01:12:45 plasma loading and nuclear reactions in condensed matter this guy's on to it man and look at this 480 views from two years ago this is this is it's criminally underviewed man this is NASA's lattice confin Fusion project okay why is nobody talking about this why aren't more people interviewing this guy and having you know I can't believe this has got only 480 views I need to reach out to Larry and be like dude I need to get you on some big podcast and and I'm going to reach out to Larry dude this 01:13:24 is this is nuts dude he's he's an absolute genius uh I I reached out to Nathan Cohen they won't even get back to me dude they they're so they're probably making millions of dollars in in deep DOD contracts with this fractal antenna stuff they do not want to talk to us um but man would we learned so much from those guys way more than you could learn from from David Perez I'm sure they're building stuff for for the military to test the David Perez research and stuff if if they're doing any kind of research in to that they 01:13:56 they'd have this guy working on it but again um they have Richard bander yeah Richard bander is great he's he's amazing and we've had him on the podcast uh many times for for Apec and whatnot so this is one to listen to if you're going to listen to anything on this topic and you want to get an introduction and really learn the Deep physics of it this would be the one to check out this is the one to send to uh guys like Davey ottenheimer and other reporters who are reporting on the possibility of um Advanced propulsion 01:14:36 Technologies and um physics beyond the standard model anyways yeah that would be amazing because that would go he is such a smart dude he you I learned so much just from like the the the conversations in the hallway at at iccf the cold fusion was conference was just were just better than the the the presentations themselves because amazing stuff yeah yeah and also Edward Teller dude yeah dude this guy's way smart I'm a smart nerd but this dude's like super smart and yeah he's probably signed ndas it's 01:15:23 probably reason he can't talk but I got into this man we we can't be alone I mean obviously the Drake equation says it's statistically improbable that we're the only ones here problem is can they get here they have the technology to get here can we warp the fabric of SpaceTime because traveling at the speed of light in a rocket or even close to the speed of light in a rocket just uh it's not not cutting it that's not going to do it that's not going to get you across this the cosmos and star to star 01:15:58 man yeah Larry's a PhD man he's like one of the he was one of the top guys at at spay War Labs so the US Navy and now he works at Nasa yeah look up Lawrence forsley dude I'm pretty sure he's a PhD Google Scholar here he is yeah he's Well published dude I mean he's he's got to be really high on the the index he's he's been publishing for decades and he's cited like in tons of tons of coal Fusion Ellie on our research stuff yeah there's a lot of chinesium out there um but again we have to go with what we 01:17:04 have proof for but yeah anyways yeah dude they you want to hear something crazy about the the Chinese right so um Chinese nuclear plants right so you know how we had problems with you know we had problems with some of the nuclear meltdowns and stuff well China has building more nuclear power plants than anywhere else in the planet they want they they there's a whole bunch of new um power plants that are being built all across China and work I know someone that worked for one of these companies originally um 01:17:50 there was a French company that they had hired to do the engineering to build the whole uh nuclear power power plant and they then fired that company and hired an American company which was um the company right near here um used to be the Foxboro company it's it's uh oh what are they now it's not Seamans it was Seamans for a while um inv Venus inv Venus Corporation so invensis Corporation and invensis got hired got the contract to to to pick up the engineering on this uh it's now Schneider Electric okay and they had the 01:18:40 contracts to do this um this this power plant in China that I heard about and basically they had to they translated everything all the manuals for the power plant from French to Chinese and then from Chinese to English so by the time we got the translations in English it was worse it was so much worse than just if it was translated from Chinese to English because the CH someone else with poor Chinese and French already translated the French to poor Chinese and then CH translated that poor French translation to English so it 01:19:15 was just like these guys have these massive nuclear reactors that they're set up and they've basically chines ified all the technology they literally um plagiarized and and and copied all the stuff they're all on the coasts right they're all they're all on the coast um yeah this is like this is like so I mean one on one hand you know we're worried about Chinese rising up and becoming a superpower and stuff but on the other hand it would be really easy to wipe them all out with a with a tital wave on the west coast there 01:19:50 um jeez yeah there's there was so much Lost in Translation and then these these Chinese are trying to copy everything and and and then run these power plants and they do everything as cheap as possible they cut every corner imaginable uh so safety safety forget about it so I just uh you know they're going to have some powerful infrastructure but man it's only going to be a matter of time before there's another fushima Three Mile Island uh Fukushima Chernobyl right going on over there this is this is just bad it's just a big 01:20:30 big uh bad setup for um was like nuclear be widely used even if you set off a bomb it wouldn't be radioactive well everyone hears the word nuclear and they think of you know bombs and stuff and then radiation and stuff but you nuc nuclear just means the nucleus of an atom it it doesn't mean anything else just means it's Atomic and then of course Atomic has a that weird language connotation with people that don't understand science um yeah yeah I don't know man um but yeah they have a lot of power 01:21:16 infrastructure to do a lot of manufacturing over in China now they're they're ramping up their power infrastructure like tenfold over there they're they're getting ready for the next generation meanwhile all our infrastructure here is deteriorating and we have lots of people that still think nuclear means visionable material and and radiation and so they're scared to death of of uh you know expanding our potential energy infrastructure to this degree even though um I have much more faith in the in the Americans to safely 01:21:47 operate these plants than I do the Chinese um but yeah yeah yeah this is just um they're about to LeapFrog the us but again it's it's fragile because you know if assume these power plants just work and they don't they don't uh melt down and and have uh problems then yeah they're going to be they're going to Leap Frog and outpace US quickly we're still arguing about which bathroom to use uh and and and gender prouns and um these other countries are just dis demolishing us with uh technology and infrastructure and what they're set up 01:22:30 yeah it's bad man and they have all that all that technology is we're copying China man we we already got all the speed cameras and the and the street cameras all up all around here um it's like bad in China it's way worse you get like tickets for uh jaywalking across the street and well then again um they are copying all of our stuff they have huge uh Espionage infrastructure in the United States dude they've copy we have tons of stuff to copy they copy everything we have They're copying all the stuff they're even copying you 01:23:11 know the theoretical stuff that's you know talked about on this channel and and is still maybe classified in in these deep black programs They're copying all this this they're watching this show right now copying you know taking notes on what what to copy next yeah there'll be a social credit score model yeah they China they put your they put your face on the TV if you're JW walking in certain places man the uh let me see the China J Walker TV screen was that thing yeah The The J Walkers they get you on 01:23:59 the screen and then they publicly shame you they publicly shame you go check that out pretty freaking nuts stuff yeah um please smash the like button guys if you just tuned in and um I know a lot of people are just jumping in now we got some numbers coming in guys what do you think what do you think about Chinese anti-gravity technology and drone you know do they they have gravitational drones no I don't think so I doubt it I think China's got some pretty Advanced you know the super cavitating um 01:24:43 Torpedoes you know again you look up super cavitating Torpedoes they have a published test showing in South Korea wow that's that's insane that's the underwater test in South Korea of the this super cavitating torpedo so other countries are beating us they're destroying Us in um the technolog technology race absolutely destroying us with this shik shik Val me mechanism this is the mechanism they've developed for the frontal nose cone to create this Super cavitated Bubble around the torpedo so that it can travel in a 01:25:38 vacuum instead of through a viscous fluid like water which slows you down a ton and it's you know hard reason you can paddle a boat right water is viscous it's hard to move but you create this Super cavitated Bubble in front of it and boom you got super cavitation in this frictionless um and yeah they talk about these hydrophobic projectiles too amazing pretty pretty wacky stuff but um real again real this is proving and then the the Laser Technology that they have where they can create these plasma spheres in the sky 01:26:22 create uh plasma projections of plasma orbs no idea if that's what all UFOs are apparently um you can summon these things with your Consciousness I must not have the right Consciousness to be able to do it because it never works for me but I heard stories from other people about summoning these damn drones I don't know about that but I do know that super cavitating Torpedoes are definitely real and they're definitely the future and they're definitely dangerous and and China and a lot of these other countries 01:26:57 very definitely have more advanced technology than the US in terms of this kind of stuff so if they're more advanced in the underwater um super cavitating missile Technologies then I'm sure they're more advanced in the above water or in the air uh super cavitating Technologies which are again the future of what we know about these Advanced drone Technologies um there's no evidence to suggest that they're teleport or things that are way more exotic in fact I think a lot of these much more exotic explanations are um are 01:27:32 disinformation or Counter Intelligence in my opinion until proven otherwise uh always keep an open mind and always looking for more whistleblowers and um others to join but yeah check out Larry forsley on uh number 69 of ss systemic Futures and also um you can search some of his other videos and stuff man the guy's super smart uh I'm going to try and get him on his guest talk to him pick his brain and a lot of this stuff man is is real technology yeah the the Inventus guys in Schneider Electric that 01:28:05 had to take over that that Chinese power plant job just said it's it's like it's it's insane what's going on in China right now but anyways guys uh thank you for watching I hope we uh should I keep it going a little bit longer or should we wrap it up uh I wanted to actually I wanted to get into this started talking about this I jumped into it briefly and I want to get back to this because this was uh kind of an interesting thing so many of you know uh guests we've had on the show many times that David 01:28:41 Chester of uh Gravity Research quantum gravity right um Quantum Gravity Research Foundation right is it called Quantum Gravity Research Foundation okay now Quantum Gravity Research Foundation was this sort of uh individual project started by a a philanthropist named uh CLE Irwin and CLE Irwin um was on uh he was on Tim Ventura I think recently right CLE Irwin Tim Ventura yeah yeah seven days ago guys this was uh this is a new one out from Tim Tim Ventura and Tim interviewed CLE irn of Gravity Research Foundation and 01:29:34 one of the things I thought was super interesting about um C's story is that he has a son who's like semi- autistic who's apparently like telepathic in remote views he can his son can like remote view um so I just thought that was really weird because I just don't believe believe in remote viewing I think it's I thought it was nonsense I've always thought it was just seemed like pseudo scientific nonsense um but here's some guy who's very well established and connected with uh you know Dave Chester's boss 01:30:08 basically and he believes in this remote viewing stuff and that's the reason he you know broke out of and decided to philanthropy that he's going to research you know some of this Quantum stuff and do more research into quantum gravity and understanding the quantum realm um better to maybe see if there's something in quantum mechanics that might account for explaining these weird phenomenon like remote viewing or or or te telepathy and stuff so um then the telep then Jesse um Michaels comes out five 01:30:42 days ago with this uh documentary on the telep the telepathy tapes documentary um these kids are telepathic from this Harvard scientist who you know did a bunch of research and to these kids who apparently were telepathic and this is just like return to Witch Mountain here if anyone seen that movie um The Witch Mountain movies by Disney right it's just and this again the CIA connection with how put off for the the remote viewing stuff and again I don't believe in this I have not believed in this I've been 01:31:16 devout like that this is like seems like superpowers and seems like ridiculous but I think it may I don't know know what do you guys think do you guys think remote viewing is real put type one in the chat if you think it's real two if you think it's it's total and it's just some it's some or something else you know just let me hear what the audience thinks one if you believe in remote viewing two if you don't i' I'd like to see yeah yeah guys we got 27 people watching and only 79 likes on the video if you 01:31:58 guys could please please smash that like button even if or the unlike button any engagements good engagement and uh please we need more people to engage with the videos and and and share in order to get the uh get this out there so we got a lot of people a lot more uh overwhelming one of people that believe in remote viewing versus people that don't there are number uh big two big Skeptics on here people that um but it seems like a lot of ones there are a few two oh I'm getting more twos now they said 01:32:35 that if it's just people being obstinate and wanting to go against the grain but Elon Musk the dangers of nuclear power are greatly overstated you can make a nuclear reactor that is literally impossible to melt down even if you tried to melt it down that's true yes uh a lot has been learned in nuclear Engineering in the past UH 60 years since we started doing that sort of thing yeah um yeah man jump on yeah please jump in guys and uh if you know if anyone else is out there that wants to jump in and and get in on this 01:33:16 conversation whether you want to talk about remote viewing uh the potential of advanced physics beyond the standard model being hidden from uh a cons by a conspiracy being hidden from the entire academic and scientific Community what do you want to talk about come on this is this is this is your chance guys uh I am very open on this channel communicating with people um but yeah I want to reach back out to Jesse and and um really see what's going on with him this is kind of interesting I want to 01:33:51 check this out because I've had weird so he talks about these these kids that are autistic and they can't really talk like non-verbal and this there's like people in the comments talking about this like my son's non-verbal and um I've had this weird feeling this guy this my daughter 14 non-verbal she has EP epilepsy she never told out the spelling method and I'm crying wondering if all this time she's been trying to communicate and just not able to that's exactly what I feel like is with my daughter she she wants to communicate 01:34:21 but she's not able to um I'm going to research I'm going to research this too um and look into this uh whole method I want to try to teach my kid how to do this because it would be great to get her to be able to talk and open up and and and speak outside of her shell because she she doesn't say a lot of words and she's she's non-verbal and uh yeah you got to keep the CI away from these kids man it's weird thing because she has she's not able to communicate but I weird sometimes like I'll feel like some I hear her voice inside my 01:34:53 head man weird um I don't know how to explain that but it it's uh it's really strange um if that's real because I feel like she communicates and she can communicate through like some sort of telepathy which is you know it's kind of like open my mind a little bit to this stuff because I've been a real hardcore skeptic of the whole uh superpowers and remote viewing nonsense I just think there's a lot of people out there that fake it or pretend to be remote viewers definitely that but I have to give you a 01:35:26 couple of my own personal experiences because I also did not believe in it at all until I I thought my mom was the craziest like woman in the world CU she Thro my life like uh her dad like left the family when she was like six or eight or something and then as a kid I was be like Mom like are you ever going to look in to see what happened to your dad like to my grandpa and she's like I'll know when he dies he'll come to me in the dream that night and I was like okay mom like sure uh whatever you say and then it's 01:36:05 like sure enough it was like one Christmas like 10 or 15 years ago and she's like calls me up she's like yep my dad died came to me a dream I'm like okay and then it's like she literally went with her sisters my aunts and they applied to the government for his releases and they were finally able to issue them because of his military records because he had actually died that specific day and when they got the records back uh my family found out that my grandpa had moved just like a couple of like one Province over and like one 01:36:43 city up and then had three more daughters and he named them the exact same names as my other three aunts that are the sisters to my mom so it's like I literally have two sets of like ants that are like one's I guess half ants and the other's full that are the same names it's freaking crazy and founded out by my mom having my grandfather come to her in a dream when he died and it turned out to be exactly like the day and yeah that like that just like was shook my reality CU it was like not believing that thinking my mom's crazy 01:37:26 my whole life and then it actually turning out to happen and verified by the government and then finding out that there's like a second whole family and it's like where they exist is like red deer and I live in Calgary so it's like literally just like one city up from where I am it's not far at all it's it's pretty wild dang yeah man this stuff's kind of it's kind of Mak you really scratch your head and say do we really know for sure are we really that sure about how reality works and how this universe is held 01:38:07 together how the human how human consciousness works is there this's there's more to this there's more that to our understanding that that has evaded us I believe I think there's a lot that we're going to learn about Science and Tech technology that we you know our uh our world taught us was oh this is cool I want to check this out transmission Theory wasn't it a principle of metaphysics that nothing unreal exists so if anything you know is observed like that we we we know that it it's not Supernatural it's natural we just don't 01:38:50 have the framework or the model to understand it yet I by the way hey Brand how are you man welcome to the show by the way yeah it's it's it's new this is my first time coming on here but I appreciate you opening the door to us so got a question idea sort of thing like the supposed Singularity event and like this like Consciousness meeting technology meeting whatever creation is or like thought or like the power of God slash like telekinesis potential slash AI slash whatever but that does it all 01:39:33 connect at once at that one moment and then it's like what what goes from there are we all all connect like a quantum computer to like the quantum network can we like then qu like interact consciously with anything and any knowledge throughout the universe at any time sort of thing like yeah the the youngian approach right Carl Young had this idea of this uh common what was it called the um the theory of this uh Collective reality or um the subconsciousness where we can all like we're all kind of like 01:40:15 connected and we can tap in this oh the collective unconscious there's a collective unconscious mind talks about the monkey e theorem and and some of these other weird things was like that so I was thinking about this like last night literally but one of the one of the um the outputs from some of the implications on on this warp drive research I think Travis Taylor was doing some work on warp drive and uh when when you have multiple you might you might end up with a state where like you have multiple warp bubbles within warp 01:40:51 Bubbles and some of those uh actually the the implication is that that the the space inside I'm still working on how this works out but the space inside the warp bubble is bigger than what's on the outside so it's kind of like the Tardis in the sense that like from from Doctor Who in the sense it's bigger on the inside so like the implications of that are that we are at possibly at the Gate of discovering that space isn't what we thought and we might be able to literally create extra space and so like 01:41:27 the implications of that are so counterintuitive to everything we've experienced so far that we might but that's all happening at the same time that we're developing Quantum processing I like that a lot simulation Theory what you're just saying makes so much sense because it's like if we're unlocking a higher dimensional technology and like that if matter and density and energy fold into themselves and space as an aspect of it as you're breaking down matter into time space and dealing with space and time you get 01:42:03 matter out of it and that if you can fold that space time in on itself on matter that would essentially make that make sense on that yeah and a negative SpaceTime curvature you could you could derive energy or matter from so you know we've got both the possible modification of of positive space-time curvature which creates extra gravity uh to pull and push things around but then you have creation of negative gravity which is one of the implications of is a extra energy extra matter coming in from the void of course 01:42:43 you know got to be skeptical and below the Nano scale right below the electron proton yeah that that starts with the emergence of matter antimatter pairs that's annihilate but some of because we have a matter Universe we know that that's a slightly um asymmetrical process we end up with more energy and more matter from that they don't all annihilate otherwise we wouldn't be here but anyway yeah to get always fascinating me I've always loved these uh one time we were at Washington DC DC and we went on the elevator and there 01:43:25 was like two mirrors on either wall on the elevator and it just had reflected in Infinity you know it gives the illusion of infinity when you when you put two mirrors together right and you our mirror you're in between two mirrors there's a mirror on either side and I always thought I always thought there was something very special about that absolutely th those moments my barber had a set of MIRS like that one behind one in front and every time i' go to get my hair done it was it was time surreal experience formative I 01:44:02 love these ones where they take a a a mirror frame and they put it like backwards on top of it and they put a bunch of lights inside and it creates this Infinity illusion oh yeah like an Infinity there's people on YouTube on Tik Tok making these Infinity tables yeah the infinity yeah and there's like a ladder going down forever but you have to have two opposing themselves reflecting into them and spinning and then also have a magnet and Laser spinning inside of that and then see what happens but it makes sense that 01:44:36 SpaceTime is curved because no matter how exactly flat and and parallel you try to make those two mirrors they're always going to be off a little bit and that little bit creates the curvature you know of of the uh illusion inside the um projected Infinity right right that that compounds with the number of iterations right so it's sort of an emerging quality and you can see oh that's an interesting Insight you can see the curvature of SpaceTime from infinite mirroring n well you can just tell that there's there's got to be some 01:45:10 curvature to SpaceTime because it doesn't unless it unless it's completely straight and it goes to Infinity well we're going around and around and around right we're orbiting the Sun around the galactic plane around like the universal planes sort of thing so of course as time going on we're curving in the space that's traveling through the time right yeah I don't it's yeah the branchial branchial space we're moving along a Tim likee curve as they say one of these geodesics right it's a triple spin it's a triple 01:45:49 Vortex going in upon itself it's interesting um how we could view time is like at each moment in time there's a bunch of possibilities that could exist and then as that wave function collapses at every through every um iteration of time where we close off certain possibilities and oh and uh and and stay restricted in in others but it just seems I don't War bubbles existing within each other and like your time lines creating and breaking off in each other that is a potential big issue when we start 01:46:38 experimenting or achieving warp technology and warp bubbles is is that going to like essentially create what uh they're saying is this Mandela effect or branched reality or rip or tear in SpaceTime or different yeah especially if there's a potential for time travel or anything like that that that just uh comp it just complicates things even more well yeah one of the this is one of the best selling points for the everan interpretation for uh quantum physics because like they established these things called the positivity conditions 01:47:17 in the mathematics back in the 50s or 60s and the one of the main reasons was to control close timelight curves but if you have a a Multiverse you know as soon as you go back in time you're you're you create a different branch basically and that helps solve that so yeah what was one of the craziest things about matter is it's not made of matter matter matter is not made up of matter you know matter is made up of these things called you know fundamental particles you know electrons and positrons I mean electrons and protons 01:47:57 and neutrons right mainly and those electrons neutrons and and protons are all made of quarks which are made of stuff that is not matter what the stuff that makes up matter is is rearranged SpaceTime it looks like rearranged space or space that's arranged or geometrically aligned in a certain way a different type of you know if it's hyperdimensional space that's connected in different way um so yeah everything is entanglement and gravity is like the back gravity again is we we kind of know theoretically what gravity 01:48:41 is from this Maritime Casmir effect um the idea of the C the maritime Casmir effect is that you know between there's this wave of we live in this ocean we live this in this ocean called the unra radiation bath of space and the unra radiation bath is just like tons of Mike Mulla brings up unra radiation a lot that's C of his his understanding of yeah gravity is and the idea is that you know they did the the maritime Casmir effect will will shows that in a in a maritime cmir effect right that shows that in a 01:49:24 long in a harbor um the boats if you had two boats in a wavy ocean the waves are damped between the two boats so that there's less waves between the two boats so there's always going to be a bigger trough between the two boats which will actually cause the boats to eventually come together and touch they've done this experiment many times in a wavy pool they'll put the two they'll put the two boats in the wavy pool bunch of bunch of waves if if the pool's not wavy it doesn't seem to work though quite 01:49:52 well as well I mean but in a wavy this is a metaphor for space basically space that space is full of all these waves and that the C due to the Casmir effect um between objects some of those waves get dampened out the bigger the objects are the more that dampening is and that dampening actually creates gravity in that boundary question does this relate to Michael Boyd's Nano micro gravity and the gravity Wells and stuff that he's written yes indeed it does because if you get an individual casmere effect like these 01:50:28 mirrored plates that are supposedly in these met material uh coded surfaces on the on the Cod of these spacecraft um you can destroy or cause interference in in these sort of wave effects and potentially um warp you know manipulate gravity so that's your nanom meta material that potentially is like the Russian gratic off or whatever with the insect like structures of the Wings potentially sort teack or might be like uh either yeah his idea was that there was these um structures that that created a u a dampening like almost like 01:51:11 meta materials in the insect wings and I think that Sunny uh Sunny White is also doing something like this with uh with microgravity control he's got some sort of metam material along the same lines as Jack sarfati but Jack would probably call him a schmuck uh of course he calls everybody a schmuck it means you're on the right track probably um but Sunny is doing that um and and has been for a little while do and he's basically creating Casmir Pockets with little little Nano structures similar to 01:51:42 Michael Boyd yeah he's doing some interesting work out there uh Sunny is sunny White's working with um is he still working with NASA or is he uh I know he did the M Drive stuff I I don't know I think he's got some some something independent going like sort of adjacent to a company now or something I maybe Ryan wood I thought he was working Ryan wood is another interesting uh unfortunately I don't I don't track enough what the people are doing I just I I the the concepts are all kind of jumbled in my head and I do my best I've been 01:52:28 playing with this for the last year and a half along with Dan Davis is my Guru um he's been doing a lot this is the guy no that wasn't this is this is the guy I'm pretty sure no it doesn't look like maybe I'm getting the name wrong um it's getting scary out there go though guys we got to stick together and uh as the as it seems like the CIA is is is out for us we need to Source everything all the Science and Technology needs to be open sourced and documented it's the best way to protect yourself and it's the best way for 01:53:08 Humanity to Leap Frog over the control system and just reach that like a mass critical mass level that then it just becomes the norm and instead of the fear of how it's going to disrupt uh be a disruptive technology as a negative instead it can be actually be applied by everyone working on it to the masses to be a disruptive in a positive and like societal world changing sort of way yeah we need to we need to ensure that this technology disclosure comes and falls into the right hands and not the wrong 01:53:44 hands and and right now it's very confusing who the right or the wrong hands are we don't know I mean it's like there's I part of me and it needs to come to light because humanity is getting stupid with all of the real science and workings and technology in the dark and US lying to ourselves and you know just yeah yeah idiocracy is UN it's I mean technologically speaking it's on the level of the nuclear bomb let's not kid ourselves like this is Major technology but so like you wouldn't want every literally everybody walking around 01:54:19 with a nuclear bomb but you would want Mo like most of the public understand how it works and you wouldn't want to like hand it to the Chinese the Russians but at the same time I don't think we have to wor about they're not us now they they already so I I'm pretty sure the Chinese and the Russians are also developing this simultaneously and uh so like I I like a three-legged stool as the most stable platform I hate this hedg money I I I I like multipolar idea but that doesn't mean we need to go 01:54:49 helping them we need to do the best for us and and that way we can achieve parody with everybody else and not get leapfrogged ourselves well the real risk is once AGI and if conscious AI comes out and that it's all in the military and the dark AI private systems right now and that like either way I I guess it will get to AI but we should put it in the open source like in the open not hidden and if AI does develop we're all screwed anyways so why not give humans the ability to start working on it now 01:55:32 before the possible AI Overlord dpan future happens I don't know yeah you guys think of the idea that that that these drones represent some sort of breakout AI like that's what like some some sort of AGI escaped from a usap and got some gravity control technology and they're not they're not in the hands of anyone they're not Chinese or their their own thing free agents I don't know who knows man it I would be kind of scary uh but you know again they want to put neurolinks in in your brains and turn us into Borg and who knows man uh 01:56:09 it's it's crazy we live in a a scary world scary future uh scary times especially with all the CIA propaganda and and um disinformation that's gone around out there and yeah again this m you lurger thing saying that the drones were gravitic drones saying that the Chinese and the US government are the only ones that have this technology and that it's all advanced and hidden from us I'd like to get your opinion on like the specifics of gravitic drones like was it possibly the word anti-g gravitic 01:56:42 was in front of it or is it like gravity propuls like it's somehow using gravity on itself for propulsion or something like what what do you mean make of that yeah again it's we confirm that these he sent these messages and that it was really him and all this but again I don't trust the FBI I don't trust any of this stuff I think this guy it just seems kind of weird either he was given this given some weird information to kind of discredit or or put out there and take away from the real the real stuff the war crimes 01:57:19 you know disclosure and whistleblowing um because he didn't give what evidence for the stuff would you guys recommend to a regular person who is skeptical but open-minded again you have my UAP technical summary um I'll go send that to you if you guys check that out that's that's everything in there it goes with the his historical background and the links everything um definitely check that out um I've been sharing that for a while and there's lots of other stuff but uh everything we mention in this podcast 01:57:57 really there's there's there's lots of you know I would share this this is a good place to start this is the best I mean it's not all the evidence but it's some of the stuff um a really good book also is uh if if you're a reader uh the the hunt for zero point was love that book yeah I just recently got into that I can't believe I was like where where have you been all my life it took too long to read it I just am super skeptical of this whole thing because he said all the stuff about this an this 01:58:31 Chinese anti-gravity drone technology there hasn't been a goddamn peep about it anywhere really well apparently Trump has claimed that he's gonna make it public the information of what's going on with the drones on his first day like I've I guess he posted something on that on through social in the last few days who did Trump did I believe so let's find that I think I saw something skeptical of that because I don't know if even the president has access to all of this usap stuff that was one of the things for 01:59:07 weeks now that the government knows what has been covering up the the usaps are not the government usaps are are corporate they're housed inside of Corporations as adjacent wings of corporations that are mandated and empowered by government agencies but they are not government um and like one of the red flags when I saw that Shawn Ryan interview which was really fishy and Shady by the way in my opinion uh was that they they they said you usap I don't know what a usap is like they claim to be information officient autos 01:59:41 and they don't know what a usap is I call but I mean maybe Trump will here's the clip here's the clip let's I'm going to hold on let me stop it I want to represent this so that we can get the Audio I want to play this guys I want to hear there's a message from our incoming future president absolutely let's let's hear this guys let's you might even be speaking to me as a Canadian hey my future president with Trudeau the fine governor of the state of Canada yes you know he stepped down he that that vessel's 02:00:21 already gone was great you know he did because of trump too it was oh absolutely first He was ordered to fire Freeland and then it was like and then is like no just get the hell rid of him and I'm actually stoked on like I'm skeptical of like the new conservative guy Pier whatever anyways the one thing on is pro crypto so like hope Forum St hopefully he makes Canada where I can actually like cash out my crypto into a bank account because it was Trudeau that blocked it like years it just it's so 02:00:58 stupid but I'm I'm Pro crypto with these guys hopefully it's good all right I'm gonna play the clip for you and then I'm gonna bring in my my uh tele my telepathic stepdaughter to send you all a message your telepathy I prefer Hypnotoad all right all right we're going to play this hold on I'm going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it's ridiculous that they're not telling you about what's going on with the drones that could be us sending drones I hope that's the case 02:01:35 us doing it and doing research and maybe they don't want to talk about it from that standpoint I hope it's not an enemy but we're going to find out on the 21st the day after you have to give me a little time for the inauguration but shortly thereafter we'll give you a report on it we'll tell you exactly what it is they know and it's very strange that they aren't talking about it right they [Music] know I I'm I'm taking that with the grain assault yeah yeah man I just he'll tell us what he does know I just don't 02:02:13 know that he knows that much we're still waiting for the JFK files yeah show us the J he he said that he's going to release them on this one and he has RFK on his team and it was supposedly uh the two worst Neons uh Mike Pompeo ordering him not to like basically like threatening him that he couldn't look at it or something was like the story that he told to Rogan about it and then he's yeah we'll see if he keeps any of his words right he's promised to like try to end the war in Ukraine he's promised to release info on 02:02:50 drones he's promised uh SE several things that we'll see if it actually happens or if uh it's just a repeat of the same old swamp right yeah well I mean he's already elected so it's not like he's you know just saying stuff to get so he can get elected because he's already elected it'd be kind of stupid to you know like now that you're already elected to make these promises three day you know a couple days before you're you know G to take office good point right like many promises though but but it's 02:03:24 not campaign promises he's not trying to buy votes at this point like it's like this is just strictly stuff that would be used and tarnished against your credibility if you're saying it right before taking office and then you'd never do it right like right seems destructive like self sabotaging that's a good point right again though he might like lots of presidents have said that they were going to disclose uh UFO stuff right that's campaign or on the campaign that's like not days before taking 02:03:53 office well they then they go and try while they're presidents and they're told Mr President you don't have to have a need to know about that subject because it's and also it's not housed within the government proper some of this isn't even in the military the Pentagon like that's yeah they have the Mike Pompeo Handler of the time but in this new one it's like he's got RFK like there to push for the JFK aspect and then he's got T tulsey Gard as like the actual head of like was it CIA or NS no the 02:04:26 DIA well what we need is that eminent domain Clause they tried to push into the ndaa a while back because Congress doesn't even have the the authority to access some of these materials or some of this information from the usaps right but you had a bunch of Congress people that get their money from the DI and they they they put the kib bash on that and we didn't get that Clause into the ndaa was supposed to be there anyway guys I I got a jet but it's been it's been radical yeah I gotta wrap this up too man I 02:04:59 gotta two hours thank you for having me sorry awesome talking with you Brandon you gotta join more often thanks for absolutely guys this was a great discussion I think we uh we have a lot um made a lot of good points here on on yeah because it's gonna be interesting when Trump takes office man this is this is we live in strange and interesting times that's for sure well with Jack sarfati as his UFOs are we there's no if that happens there's no tell yes because that makes us like that makes Jeremy one 02:05:34 person away from Trump if he's got surti as a UFO guy like you're the number one guy to be added to the team right like I hope so man I hope that someday we do have that team and I get to be in charge of recruiting the people who are going to be involved in that because I think we've put together pretty Kick-Ass team with the I think you already are doing that and have been doing that for quite some time just it's public it's whether it's gonna be funded by the government and well funded by the government or not 02:06:05 there's you got Peter thei uh who's Jesse Michaels boss out there making a lot of talk about this UAP stuff especially the technology side of it I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of money on the table real soon going into R&D for this kind of stuff and I really hope that I could make myself part of that because I've given literally everything in my life uh to bring this information out to the public for the past 20 years I have a lot more to show for myself if I didn't spend all my life savings on I 02:06:41 know how we can do it we just have to show a little evidence and apply the evidence and results of lenr the cold fusion stuff because like the the ridiculous billions that keep getting wasted on like the hot Fusion that's never going to turn out into anything it's like just give us a small little amount of that and then it's like well you just claim you're using hydrogen or something to do with whatever and then spend it on whatever work way get some of that helon energy is is right there as well that's really 02:07:18 promising and they they don't need a thermal medium either they don't they're not boiling water they're just taking the energy straight out of the reaction which is pretty crazy that's pretty close to Starship level uh energy right there so right so have to remarket it as medium Fusion not cold just like plas plasma some hot some cold yeah in order to build a power conventional power plant around it you need to be able to produce steam so you need to be able to boil water and if you can't get it's cold fusion you're not 02:07:54 getting up to 212 there here's the part you do in your Arc in your plasma Arc between your electrodes your cathode and your anode in electrolysis you get that plasma Arc you actually have a ionized gas plasma like ball plasma within your denser uh saltwater Electro electrode or whatever or electr but you have that heat of the Sun in that little plasma Arc and it's just a very small voltage going through it or like amount of energy in relation to the heat that's being produced and being controlled and 02:08:36 getting the actual um ball lightning or the plasma transmutation effects in Access well and and just to correct you there like the way that helion's solution Works they they're not boiling water they they're able to get energy back out of the reaction just like that's the reaction on the Inside It's the reaction on the outside of the very shell of that plasma Arc that's like the temperature of the Sun interacting with that first layer of water that then Heats it and that gives that potential of that over Unity or so much heat 02:09:11 coming from it's because it's coming from that temperature of that plasma Arc that's literally that ionized gas that is the temperature of the Sun but helds to stain in a small energy amount in the water in the Arc of the plasma right right well well cold gentlemen is real it's plasma based technology it's much safer and uh maybe who knows we we need to we need them we need funding in order to develop it no uh definitely check out those podcasts we recommended I'm going to post them in the description below and um yeah guys 02:09:52 this is uh I I don't know looking for all answers everywhere I I I I think the best thing to do is to look is to study Physics you know get as much real education in the science as you can understand as much of the the real the real science as you can but understand where the holes are in in the official Theory and that it's not a 100% bullet proof battle you know completely solid Theory there are there's no Panacea there's no Silver Bullet here there it's it's a combination of different stuff and tomorrow morning I'm I'm 02:10:28 interviewing Jason cury who was on um APAC uh a little while back but he's doing he's a fusion uh scientist he was doing some gravity control stuff he's got a process called dielectrophoresis and he's applying it to artificial gravity systems for spacecraft electropheresis I know electropheresis yeah I know about electropheresis so I don't know if you made that word up but I'll figure that out tomorrow but he's a pretty uh heady guy he's working for the University of Alabama um on on their their Advanced 02:11:03 physics sounds the electr frees they use electric field to separate protons proteins and DNA so so if I think of like dialectric foris I'm thinking you know dialectric is is a a material where the um polarize the all the ions are tightly bound to the um to the the nuclei they not like that sounds about right like he's he's he's he's creating um a electrostatic field on sculpy Clay as his dialectric medium separating the charge you're separating by charges so it's kind of like if you take a dialectric and you 02:11:45 separate it by charges it's like you're polarizing a dialectric he says he was able to move a piece of chicken so I'll have that's a lot of what Charles bu's research said he say you got to like basically take these really high dialectric things that are really hard to polarize and you got to stretch them to their absolute limit and if you hold them there in that limit right before they they break before you can't have dialectric breakdown because once you have dialectric breakdown the materials 02:12:11 destroyed and there's an arc that's that's what lightning is is dialectric breakdown of the the air but if you can hold those those in tension right you're able to modify the dialectric and ferromagnetic constants as part of Einstein's field equation which is part of K which is part of G and uh you that's one road to to gravity question one way of doing that right is like spinning the disc like the um M machine motor whatnot but it's like when you have that clay and then you're spinning it really fast like on the outside you 02:12:47 have like it creates the negative charge and then isn't like the inside like a positive or something like that or no am I off on that I this particular method I don't think it has anything to do with spinning but a lot of people have have created rotating discs for their their approaches I I don't know how to gauge those this is all solid state though and and Charles beer and Drew is there's a solid state as well I prefer solid state just you know from an engineering perspective the more moving Parts you 02:13:17 have in something the more likely it is to break especially those kind of RPMs but uh you know that's that's a personal choice uh solid State's the way to go in my opinion no yeah I think so until I can you know get my hands on a ton of mercury and and a chamber to to make some Mercury plasma and start playing with that but that's be careful though bro yeah be careful man the researcher killed by uh Mercury death cloud is not a headline I remember I was living with these kid this kid one time and and and he he was like he heard 02:13:54 about this and he's trying the experiment in the kitchen and I'm like dude like no no no like no sir are you trying to kill us all you trying yes no yeah no well but it's uh it's my daughter's birthday and I gotta go do cake and uh I gotta I gotta get off of here gentl can keep yaking but yeah I'm I'm gonna get going too guys a great night we're going to be on soon to to blow the whistle and get more whistleblowers on please reach out to me if you're out there uh get me on your podcast come on my podcast let's let's 02:14:32 share this information and get uh the right and if you don't have Jeremy on that is evidence that you are suppressing and not allowing this information to Trend or be seene or just the other side that is the scientific evidence side UND data of this to not be shown or heard or you don't have me on at least have get Charles buer or Tim ventur or some of these other guys on man it's like come on let's like this is criminally under reported on and under underviewed and the people getting all the views on this stuff or have no idea 02:15:10 or come on not showing your face with a voice modification and privately like uh um encrypted Le or whatever send Jeremy the information first and you know if you want to whistleblow anonymously that is also can be done and highly encouraged right we just we need to get the science out there so that all of these people working on it for the sake of Open Source in humanity can just test it and apply it and use it yes yes verify it and and only the best stuff with you know credible scientists who 02:15:45 are into this you know we don't need to entertain all the nonsense that's out there or waste our time with it but there is a few needles in the hay stack there are some you know gems in in the uh in the pool of dirt you know when you dig in the Dirt Pile you finding gems and you can't just you know throw the baby out with the bath water here guys let's we're doing quite a bit uh hot Fusion's pretty much dead right now yeah they're like it's reaching its end they're they've exhausted billions and 02:16:16 billions of dollars in funding and people are like damn and it's been 10 years away for the last four or five decades now right like yeah still 10 years away it's time people are people have had enough and they're looking for something new and I'm really hoping that 2025 is the year Humanity will break free um we'll have Research into all these scientists whose work has been suppressed for 20 years or more and uh people who scientists who've been murdered killed um you know discredited uh other horrible things that have 02:16:52 happened in the name of uh coverup and we're just uh happy to um you know justify the suppression of science right like the world is on the brink of either going we saw it exactly how they suppressed science for the past four years and people are waking up they're like wow if it was that easy to fool and mislead and and derail these smart people in this entire Community then how long and what else have they been doing and a lot of people are waking up to with physics and uh it's been great it's it's a it's a 02:17:31 breakthrough uh for many people and it's gotten I'm hoping more people interested in studying physics because I've talked to professors who said you know our numbers of enrollment are dropping off nobody wants to get into physics every you know because it's a dead it's a dead field well make string theory dead make physics real again and a major part of physics being real science is testing the physics right physics goes hand inand with Engineers they need to combine engineering and physics together 02:18:02 and there will be your biggest electrical this is the revolution the revolution will not be broadcast it will not be televised it will not be on mainstream media it will not be on the news it will not be on TV and everything you see on those mainstream platforms will be disinformation leading you away from the good stuff so the only way this information spreads is through your help and through you and your audience 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