It seems like a million years ago I was on a platform called Twitter, where I posted insights like this one:
Hard to believe I ever willingly used a product called “MetroTwit”.
Anyway, the Global Calculator Tool was something brought to my attention by economists at LSE.
I ran all the possible outcomes (based on the spreadsheet) I could find and in every single scenario it became obvious that removing meat from diets had the single biggest impact in the shortest time.
It can save the world? Why?
Meat brings massive upstream implications, which cross most of the other factors. It is basically an overlay (e.g. land-use, transit-use, resource-consumption) and adding them together.
Put all the bad things together and you get a worse thing: meat.
It seemed pretty important as far as things to share. And Twitter delivered me exactly 3 “Likes”. Is it any wonder I left the platform?
Performing the straight-forward assessment of risks using this tool helps decipher headlines you likely will see more of (as people fail to shift their diet to either local sustainable meat or no meat).
2018: Plos One: 20% tax on red meat needed to cover associated healthcare costs (110% tax on bacon, which is more harmful)
2019: Animal Frontiers: livestock responsible for 14.5 percent of greenhouses gases
2020: Nature Sustainability: global plant-based diet by 2050 could remove over 16 years of CO2 emissions
Challenging the prevalent myth surrounding General Lee, it is imperative to carefully scrutinize the idea that he enjoyed widespread popularity or favor. A detailed analysis of his funeral yields valuable insights into the genesis of this misconception. It becomes evident that characterizing him as a figure of broad acclaim requires reevaluation, as there are aspects of his legacy that paint him as a literal “monster”.
On June 7, 1865, Underwood’s grand jury indicted Robert E. Lee for treason, charging him with “wickedly, maliciously, and traitorously” carrying on war against the Constitution and the “peace and dignity” of the United States of America. Lee faced death by hanging, if found guilty of the charges.
If Lee had been victorious in Civil War, it would have meant death to the Constitution (which he argued was failing its intended design to protect slavery). Thus he very correctly was charged with treason.
He embodied the epitome of tyranny, encapsulating the essence of the Old South within a singular individual. General Lee, a profoundly flawed aristocrat, is purported to have fought not merely for Virginia but explicitly for the preservation of his family’s wealth, predominantly derived from the particularly awful institution of American slavery (race-based kidnapping to breed human hostages for profit). This sentiment is articulated in a notorious and frequently referenced letter addressed to his sister in April 1861.
With all my devotion to the Union and feeling of loyalty and duty of an American citizen, I have not been able to make up my mind to raise my hand against my relatives, my children, my home.
However, it’s easy to see through his words as little more than “loyalty” hype. Copious documents show the man was neither loyal to his own family nor his state.
Lee in 1857 took ownership of nearly 200 people formerly held hostage (enslaved) by his father-in-law. Lee had been given the very specific instruction in that man’s will to set them all free within five years.
In other words, at the moment in 1861 he is supposed to show loyalty to family Lee instead falsely grouses he can’t raise a hand against his relatives while he is doing exactly that — refusing to honor his father-in-law’s very specific wishes.
Lee turns against his own by selfishly and tyrannically abusing at least 189 “family” members being held hostage in his “home”. Unilaterally he begins a cruel practice of systemically destroying families he had inherited. Why? His family practices were ruptured by him for no reason other than greed and hate, breaking up his owned families by treating people in his home like animals he very brutally detained to sell instead of set free as he had been ordered to do.
…Pryor writes that “Lee ruptured the Washington and Custis tradition of respecting slave families” by hiring them off to other plantations, and that “by 1860 he had broken up every family but one on the estate, some of whom had been together since Mount Vernon days.” The separation of slave families was one of the most unfathomably devastating aspects of slavery, and Pryor wrote that Lee’s slaves regarded him as “the worst man I ever see.” The trauma of rupturing families lasted lifetimes for the enslaved—it was, as my colleague Ta-Nehisi Coates described it, “a kind of murder.”
Some contend that General Lee’s actions (holding humans hostages and breeding them like animals for cruel profit) can be dismissed as mere attempts to bolster his financial standing like George Washington was known. However, such a perspective overlooks the core of his actions, which involved the dismantling of familial traditions and the rupture of close relationships in pursuit of his own ambitions for power and profit. The betrayal of loyalty is starkly evident in his willingness to raise arms against his own kin.
In a rather damning narrative, Lee is characterized as having “kind of murdered” his own familial bonds, blatantly opposing the very foundations of those connections. This domestic disloyalty raises questions about his character and sheds light on a darker aspect of his personal history.
Given this apparent betrayal within his own household, it is perhaps unsurprising that a man deemed the “worst” in his domestic sphere would subsequently undertake actions to undermine the very nation he had sworn to defend. The parallels between his disloyalty to family and his subsequent role in attempting to dismantle the Union become a subject of noteworthy consideration.
Furthermore, the discussion often centers around the falseness of Lee’s professed devotion to the Union. This aspect, frequently scrutinized, underscores the complexity of his loyalties and prompts a deeper examination into the motivations behind his decisions.
Lee’s family life and career were something like a boiling mess of cheating and domestic strife, which should have been seen as foreshadowing for his unfaithful violence against America.
…Mary Custis Lee, the wife, grandchild of Martha Washington, a badly spoiled and unpleasant woman, 30 years an invalid, who was often separated from her husband and preferred life with father in the Arlington mansion. The solace Lee sought from numerous other women apparently never came to consummation. On top of this was an unhappy military career, which took 30 years to earn Lee the rank of colonel. By the decade before the war, Lee had become subject to spells of deep depression, fits of morose behavior, occasional outbursts of violent temper and an obsession with death that amounted to “an almost suicidal tendency.”
Accordingly, Lee was reckless in his march into a war where he cared little about humanity and soon he was held to blame for causing a staggeringly cruel death toll of Americans, doing little or nothing despite being aware when his men committed gross atrocities.
During his life and for several years after his death in 1870, Lee was subject to severe criticism, North, South and abroad.
The severe nation-wide and even global criticism was well founded.
Lee had very intentionally denied care to wounded American soldiers. He betrayed his entire country, a republic, with an aim of terrorizing and slaughtering Americans to expand a violent tyranny of his family, such that only a few white elitist men (his male relatives, particularly his son) were supposed to rule over all women and non-whites.
That’s not exactly a popularity boost for anyone’s funeral even in 1870.
Don’t get me wrong, though.
Throughout history, there existed individuals who, embracing General Lee’s vision of substituting American governance with tyranny, aligned themselves with his cause to perpetuate and expand slavery as a purported entitlement for the white race. Presently, these adherents are recognized as the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).
These domestic terrorists favored his barbaric tactics, aiming to continue them in civilian conflicts even after defeat on the battle field. Some pushed it as a bogus “Christian Soldier” myth as a form of religious extremism (e.g. Crusade, Jihad) and some kind of lame excuse for Lee’s unmistakable cruelty and unnecessarily high casualties. When Grant maneuvered time after time towards decisive victories, capturing huge numbers of enemy soldiers, Lee instead mired his men into hopeless withering defeats and unnecessarily high death tolls as if a blueprint for mass shootings even 150 years later.
Grant’s brilliant coordinated offensives 1864-1865 not only significantly shortened the war through decisive combined-arms victories, he demonstrated true national leadership with broad vision and humanitarian aims. By comparison Lee never achieved more than a Colonel’s work despite three decades of service, clearly suffering from severe combat myopia.
In this context, the funeral of General Lee serves as compelling evidence of how his once formidable popularity waned, a consequence directly linked to his personal and professional deficiencies. Over time, this decline became so pronounced that he passed away in relative obscurity just a few years after subjecting his own family and followers to harsh treatment.
Bluntly stated, it was Lee’s descent into relative obscurity that likely spared him from facing a very public reckoning for his failures. Some conjecture that General Grant played a discreet yet pivotal role in ensuring Lee’s avoidance of a harsh fate. True to his character, Grant, with unwavering integrity and humility, refused to yield in a disagreement with President Johnson. Privately, Grant insisted that Johnson accept terms ensuring compassionate treatment of the defeated soldiers, a stance that further endeared the heroic General to the very men he compelled to surrender. This wasn’t solely about Lee; rather, Grant stood resolute in upholding what he deemed right for the collective welfare of all involved.
Had the Confederate General with a history of failures more prominently stuck his neck out and tried to remain a relevant political or even public figure after the Civil War it seems likely he would have ended up hanged.
In his [June 1865] instructions to the grand jury, Judge John C. Underwood described treason as “wholesale murder,” and declared that the instigators of the rebellion had “hands dripping with the blood of slaughtered innocents.” In early 1866, Lee decided against visiting friends while in Washington DC, for a congressional hearing, because he was conscious of being perceived as a “monster” by citizens of the nation’s capitol. […] Andrew Johnson didn’t overlook Lee’s pardon application because a required oath had gone missing. He deliberately chose not to pardon Lee because the southern commander was under indictment for treason. In late 1865 and early 1866, Andrew Johnson, famous at the time for his vow to make treason odious, fully intended to have Lee prosecuted and punished under Article III, section 3 of the US Constitution… death by hanging if convicted.
Read that again: “Lee was conscious of being perceived as a ‘monster’ by citizens…”
Indeed, barred from holding any public office or exercising the right to vote in elections, this individual characterized as a “monster”—who perpetrated the heinous acts of murdering his own family and fellow citizens—retreated into obscurity. From this concealed position, he persisted in perpetrating his form of terrorism against American families.
Lee took up a post as president of a small militant extremist training school, a regional “Washington College” in Lexington, Virginia (a school he fit into well, given it owned human beings and benefited from their forced labor and enslavement, not to mention reputation for raping black girls).
…students at Washington formed their own chapter of the Ku Klux Klan, and were known by the local Freedmen’s Bureau to attempt to abduct and rape black schoolgirls from the nearby black schools. …Lee was as indifferent to crimes of violence toward black people carried out by his students as he was when they were carried out by his soldiers.
More than a decade before Parks became a civil rights hero for refusing to give up her bus seat to a white man, Parks led a national campaign against sexual assaults on black women.
And did you know that memorials to Southern Confederacy even to this day are meant to promote domestic violence against American women?
Julian Carr spoke at the dedication of the monument in 1913 [center of McCorkle place on the UNC Campus, Chapel Hill, NC]. His speech recounted the heroic efforts of the men the monument honored… “100 yards from where we stand, less than 90 days perhaps after my return from Appomattox, I horse-whipped a negro wench, until her skirts hung in shreds…”
And that’s not even to get into the fact that while Lee allegedly ignored the well-known and systematic rape of Black women he also locked away his daughters refusing them any freedoms at all, such that they could serve only his wants and no other life or purpose.
[Lee’s daughter Mildred] had many suitors after the war but turned them all down, as none of them matched up to her father [who impatiently kept her isolated]. He relied on her to run the household after he accepted the position as head of Washington College and they moved to Lexington, Virginia. […] A friend of the family asked if she could write a book about Mildred’s life, but Mildred responded that she had not done anything worth the world to know. “[T]he true history of my life – and I suppose of any woman’s – would read stranger, sadder, more inexplicable than any romance that ever was written.”
One cannot help but contemplate whether General Lee, had he remained faithful to his familial and sworn duties to defend the Union, might have spared his children from the peculiar melancholy and “strange” sadness they endured. The incarcerated existence of his daughters appears most aptly characterized as a desolate and futile servitude to an unfaithful tyrant.
Records tell us at this point very few mourned the “monster” outside of his militant school and some former circles of slaveholder politicians.
The numbers don’t lie.
The school even had to turn its “cadets” into his pallbearers and the small funeral procession was over almost as quickly as it started.
Order of Procession as “Escort of honor, consisting of officers and soldiers of the Confederate Army. Chaplain and other Clergy. Hearse and Pall-Bearers. General Lee’s Horse. The Attending Physicians. Trustees and Faculty of Washington College. Dignitaries of the State of Virginia. Visitors and Faculty of V. M. Institute. Other Representative Bodies and Distinguished Visitors. Alumni of Washington College. Citizens. Cadets V. M. Institute. Students Washington College as Guard of Honour.” It continues, in part “At 10 O’Clock, Precisely, The Procession (except as hereafter designated) will be formed on the College ground, in front of the President’s House and will move down Washington Street… The Procession will be halted in front of the Chapel… when the Cadets for the Institute and the Students of Washington College will be marched through the College Chapel, past the remains…
These details are captured in an auction piece.
And it’s confirmed also in an 1883 recount of the funeral.
To put it another way a small regional school and some former seditious officers showed up dutifully, as well as slaveholder politicians, in total numbering barely over 1,000 people.
That’s essentially nothing, given he had only recently stopped being the head of a secessionist military with lofty aims of destroying America to replace it with a slave state.
He had more than 20X that number preparing to fight a last battle when he surrendered just a few years prior. Think about that. Four years after more than 20,000 men answered his call to invade and destroy America only a few showed up to pay Lee any respect at his funeral.
Thus, the defeated General Lee died with a negative score in his battles, losing a massive war badly with excessive loss of life. He had not regained his citizenship, nor was he personally/formally pardoned officially for treason let alone leading a fight to destroy the American Constitution.
Nonetheless his body was allowed to receive a “military salute” from the tight circle of his own cadets at his school.
Tributes were mentioned from just eight cities:
Louisville, Kentucky
Augusta, Georgia
New Orleans, Louisiana
Atlanta, Georgia
Richmond, Virginia
Columbia, South Carolina
Baltimore, Maryland
Lexington, Kentucky
Eight cities.
In a nutshell, Lee stopped his fight to expand slavery (ending the entire basis of his public career) while wearing suspiciously shiny boots and unused sword to a ceremonial surrender to General Grant at the Appomattox Court-House on April 12.
I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse. […] General Lee was dressed in a full uniform which was entirely new, and was wearing a sword of considerable value, very likely the sword which had been presented by the State of Virginia; at all events, it was an entirely different sword from the one that would ordinarily be worn in the field. […] General Lee, after all was completed and before taking his leave, remarked that his army was in a very bad condition for want of food, and that they were without forage; that his men had been living for some days on parched corn exclusively, and that he would have to ask me for rations and forage. I told him “certainly,” and asked for how many men he wanted rations. His answer was “about twenty-five thousand”…
The fancy well-heeled shiny-sword elitist Lee, grinding his 25,000 suffering and starving men into early graves, passed quickly from public thoughts (despite occasional rants intended to deny Black Americans any voice in politics) and very few cared to inquire about his fate, foreshadowing why his own cadets in a small college in an obscure town were tasked with being his pallbearers.
It’s interesting to also note that President Andrew Johnson could not call Civil War officially over until all Confederate leaders met Union General Grant’s demands. When Lee surrendered he said he stood only for the Army of Northern Virginia, and that he did not lead but a few men.
The famous Grant-Lee agreement thus became a signal from the Union that any ongoing fight to preserve slavery was over; a model of surrender for large armies of the Confederacy who didn’t see Lee as leader yet still aligned with his unjust cause. It would be another 16 months after Appomattox until Grant dominated all and (on August 20, 1866) the U.S. President formally declared threats to the Constitution were ended.
In one peculiar case demonstrating shameless cowardice, on April 21 just days after Lee’s surrender, Confederate Colonel John Singleton Mosby told his own men they were abandoned:
I disband your organization in preference to surrendering it to our enemies. I am no longer your commander.
Mosby’s men walked away from this “ghost” of a leader into various groups wandering in various directions; they surrendered despite Mosby’s melt-down under pressure. Being “on your own” surely had little value to his troops as they already head been on their own — surrender brought them care from Union leadership who served their needs, including basics like being fed and clothed.
It was in this context of abandonment and purposefully weak leadership that Lee’s body was buried under a small school church, when its name was abruptly changed from just the slave-catcher Washington by adding… Lee.
Eight regimental Confederate Battle flags were set to surround a tiny recumbent statue carved of Lee in this suddenly renamed “Lee Chapel”. Private donations had to be solicited to pay for statue chamber and family crypt for Lee that was built onto the Washington Chapel.
A sudden rise of interest in promoting Lee’s name after he couldn’t be hanged for it? To what end? This was exactly what Lee said he didn’t want: anti-American flags were flown in an American school chapel (until 2014), even becoming an events center of anti-American militant groups (until 2016).
Hold that important century-long fund-raising point for a minute.
Here’s how the Army and Navy Journal on August 28, 1869 quoted Lee in regard to a Gettysburg gathering to remember the dead.
In the face of the published assurances that General Lee would like to be present, a [August 5th] letter is published from him, in which he says: “My engagements will not permit me to be present. I believe, if there, I could not add anything material to the information existing on the subject. I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.
General Fitzhugh Lee (nephew of General Lee) is similarly quoted in the Army and Navy Journal:
I rather think, though, and I write it in all kindness, sir, that if the nation is to continue as a whole, it is better to forget and forgive rather than perpetuate in granite proofs of its civil wars.
Lee and Lee’s family both asked to “obliterate the marks’ and prevent “granite proofs” such as statues… yet the exact opposite happened.
By the 1900s it became fashionable to solicit large private donations to create marks of civil strife in America and litter the countryside with “granite proofs” of the man and family who said please don’t; higher numbers of murder (lynching victims) correlate directly to location of a Confederate “symbol” (e.g. Lee).
Lee’s burial, as small and obscure as it was, was still a contradiction to Lee’s supposed wishes to bury signs of his rebellion. It became an encoded shrine to organizing violence and perpetuating the Civil War “like a contagion” that Lee supposedly quit.
Lee’s overt failures at basic humanity have become an asset for others after his death, given how funds find their way into schools that continue to turn a blind eye to domestic terrorism (add a Lee memorial to campus). Apparently it includes VERY large funds. How many Americans know, for example, one of the nation’s richest men JP Morgan Jr refused to pay taxes while also securing nearly $100m in loans to Mussolini to expand fascism?
The Washington and Lee school have thus doubled-down on using Lee to stoke donations for hate, as they repeatedly refuse to return their name to its original version (directly disobeying Lee’s own request to “obliterate the marks of civil strife”).
The school has even literally cited removal of the late name addition as “a threat to current financial support”, openly admitting use of Lee’s name after he no longer was alive to be hanged has always been about stoking cash donations through manipulating sentiment for money from wealthy domestic terror financiers.
The commission, which studied the history of the university, noted that the sculpture and other imagery in the chapel were part of an effort in the South in the late 19th century and beyond to make the Confederacy a great cause, worthy of veneration, and to make Confederate heroes into something akin to saints. “By continuing to hold rituals and events in Lee Chapel, the university, wittingly or not, sustains the Shrine of the South and the memory of Lee as a commander of the Confederate Army,” the report said. “The commission heard repeatedly in its outreach that the effect is problematic for many students, faculty, staff and alumni.” Notably, the commission said, orientation of new students takes place in the chapel, as does the signing of the honor code.
This brings to mind a similar argument made in the early 1980s when this school’s leadership literally said it would rather shut everything down than allow any women to be educated, as if less misogyny somehow posed a dire threat to its financial stability.
It finally relented in 1985, despite white male alumni vociferously arguing that their “values” (surely more than just their legacy of raping Black women) would be “compromised” by women.
Many of the current students at the time and alumni attended Washington and Lee for its strong conservative values, and felt like those values would be compromised if the university began to admit women.
Of course the opposite happened and the school’s finances are fine while it now ranks in the top 5% of male/female diversity (50/50). However the racism still exists and Lee’s name translates directly to shockingly low numbers of Black Americans on campus. Only 40 faculty out of 1,000 and just 90 students out of 1,800 are Black.
The monumental attachment to a misogynist racist “monster” like Lee is unquestionably meant as an intentional way to solicit money and make Black Americans feel so unwelcome as to deny them education.
General Lee’s funeral and its relics, as obscure and small as it all was initially, has grown into an encoded way for people to keep the Civil War unresolved — try and squeeze money out of what has become known as the “Lost Cause” fraud.
Presently, General Robert E. Lee’s historical stature appears diminished, assuming a role akin to a symbolic figure devoid of substantive meaning. His name is invoked predominantly to solicit support from white supremacist factions and to exacerbate racial tensions. This occurs concurrently with a discernible lack of reverence for Lee, as his elevation to public scrutiny reveals deficiencies in meeting even the most rudimentary criteria (where he fails even the most basic tests).
Obviously the US isn’t going to name a federal building in Oklahoma after Timothy McVeigh, nor is it going to name a sky scraper in NYC after Osama bin Laden. My how times have changed [since a monster like Lee had his name spread around like peanut butter]!
For important comparison, in 1885 when Grant died he was so revered by everyone that his pallbearers included even the Confederate Generals who had surrendered to him. He was globally mourned as a hero in what was recorded as the largest funeral in history; millions attending in a procession seven miles long that took almost all day and filled NYC. And — very unlike the fraudulent Lee monument and flag gravy train — if you would like to purchase something in Grant’s honor to commemorate actual great deeds of a US General and President, it’s called an American flag.
The saying “don’t wrestle with a pig” is a terrible one. A very similar saying, yet dispensing far superior advice, is “don’t strike the King to wound”.
The latter suggests taking on harm can be self-limiting in achieving goals — don’t commit suicide. But the former means what?
That oft-misquoted saying about pigs seems to just emphasize quitting as soon as you start something. Like saying don’t walk up a hill only down.
Is it really wise to advise squeamishness towards any challenge that brings even minimal cost?
In other words, why would you think it wise to run away when someone starts slinging mud? Are you afraid of mud? And does the fact someone else enjoys being in mud change anything?
Makes no sense logically, therefore it’s a saying begging deeper analysis.
Why not defeat an adversary in wrestling and then clean yourself as one would be expected after achieving any task requiring perspiration and exposure?
Consider the following version of the saying, which suggests one is wise to disregard a fear of becoming dirty while working hard to persevere against adversity:
It has been remarked by a wise man that he who wrestles with a hog must expect to be spattered with filth, whether he is vanquished or not. This maxim I have long known and appreciated; nevertheless, there are occasions when it must be disregarded. A man may be attacked in such a way that he is compelled to flagellate his hogship, even at the risk of being contaminated by the unclean beast.
Risk of contamination may be required. Not the most eloquent saying, but a whole heck of a lot better than giving advice to quit something just because it gets hard.
The title of this blog post is from our 2013 RSA Conference panel presentation on the ethics and business of “hack back”, a stage we shared with CrowdStrike and Trend Micro.
It was based on 2012 presentations we had been giving to explain an ethical business model for hack back, based on setting international precedent and trial: a working legal framework for self-defense using information technology.
We had a fairly large turn out those years, and I’ll never forget CrowdStrike’s founder demanding that no recordings be allowed for our panel.
He wanted no press coverage.
I found that highly annoying because the WHOLE point of our efforts at the time was to raise awareness to bring MORE scrutiny, transparency and therefore ethics into the market.
And then CrowdStrike basically took a $50m self-loan and went on to becoming yet another American Anti-Virus company with ties to the FBI, moving the dial not an inch.
David Evenden was hired in 2014 to work in Abu Dhabi on a defensive cybersecurity project, only to discover it was actually an offensive spy operation for a United Arab Emirates intelligence service.
Obviously things really took off around this time Evenden mentions.
I gave several talks after 2013 where I implored people to understand that “hack back” was very active even if people continued trying to keep it secretive.
Why so secretive? One reason obviously is entrapment of those recruited to do the technical work.
Once in Abu Dhabi, Evenden realized he had been deceived and that he and colleagues had actually been recruited to perform offensive hacking operations and surveillance on behalf of the UAE’s National Electronic Security Authority, or NESA (the UAE’s equivalent of the NSA).
The deception didn’t initially concern Evenden, however, because the work was primarily focused on conducting surveillance against would-be terrorist targets.
Ugh. Deception is a very loaded word here.
This is a text-book example of exactly what in 2013 we were working so hard on to avoid. Even if Evenden is lying, he can do so on the basis that deception is very easy when there’s zero transparency built in the system.
Evenden goes on to say literally the exact thing we discussed in our panel of 2013, which as I said was censored by CrowdStrike.
I’m an American and I want to target something overseas. What’s going to happen to me? Nothing. Almost nothing. We just proved that…
Even in 2017 I was on a panel at BSidesLV called “Baby got hack back” where I implored people again to consider how much of it was going on already without transparency or accountability.
It wasn’t a hypothetical for me in 2012. It certainly wasn’t in the news enough in 2017 (there was an audible gasp from my audiences) yet should have been.
Even if these stories would have been published sooner, more importantly an opportunity was missed to run and test far better guidelines for the market to reduce deception and confusion about legal hack back.
So I guess the point here is that this “proof” story is a decade after we very clearly said it’s a viable business plan, with activities mostly obscured and hidden from view, such that it needed open discussion already to avoid errors (e.g. criminal charges).